Re: Ubuntu 22.04 LTS wrt keyman

[Eberhard Beilharz <eb1@sil.org>]

Hi Gunnar,

Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote on 11.03.22 11:18:
> Hi Eberhard,
>
> On 2022-03-10 19:07, Eberhard Beilharz wrote:
> > Hi Gunnar,
> >
> > we just released a new version of Keyman, Keyman 15, and I just uploaded
> > that to mentors.debian.net <https://mentors.debian.net/package/keyman/>.
>
> Hmm.. So you turned it into one source package. That's good in the 
> long run, but makes it more complicated just now.
>
> If I understand it correctly, you want to create a new source package 
> named keyman which would build the binary packages which have until 
> now been built by:
>
> - ibus-keyman
> - keyman-config
> - keyman-keyboardprocessor
>
> With that those three source packages will be deleted from 
> unstable/testing later.
Exactly. The keyman source package replaces the three older source 
packages, so they can be deleted.
> What about kmflcomp, libkmfl and ibus-kmfl? Is the intention to 
> silently stop upgrading those? Are they obsolete and should be dropped?
Yes, with version 15 we no longer update those since we no longer 
actively develop them. kmfl was an older port/re-implementation of 
Keyman on Linux and got replaced by the cross-platform Keyman 
implementation. However, there are a few debug/troubleshooting features 
in kmfl that are not yet possible with Keyman for Linux, so they 
shouldn't be dropped yet.
> In any case, the fact that the keyman source package does not exist 
> yet means that it will need to be reviewed by a ftp-master. As far as 
> I know you will need to submit an ITP bug against the pseudo package 
> wnpp (<https://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/>) and explain your intention 
> there. Then we'll need to do a binary upload to Debian's NEW queue, 
> and it may take some time before it gets attention there.
Are you sure? https://mentors.debian.net/packages/ shows it as "Already 
in Debian" and not needing a sponsor, so I would have thought that it's 
good, but what do I know 😁. Anyways, I submitted an ITP bug: 
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1007123
> However, I'm not 100% sure about what I just wrote. I cc'ed this 
> message to the mailing list. Maybe somebody knows about a simpler way 
> when it's really just a source package consolidation. Boyuan, somebody 
> else?
>
> > Would it still be possible to get that into Ubuntu 22.04? Although the
> > major version number increased it's mainly bug fixes on the Linux side.
>
> In the light of the above, would it be an option to you that we upload 
> version 14.0.287 in the usual way to start with, and deal with the 
> source package consolidation afterwards?
I uploaded 14.0.287 for unstable, and re-uploaded 15.0.211 for experimental.

Thanks,
    Eberhard

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