Re: ssh, /dev/urandom

To: neal@cs.uml.edu (Neal H. Walfield)
Cc: "BSG)"@murphy.debian.org, "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@kemisten.nu>, kilobug@freesurf.fr, jbailey@nisa.net, sergipop@mx3.redestb.es, debian-hurd@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: ssh, /dev/urandom
From: tb@becket.net (Thomas Bushnell, BSG)
Date: 19 Dec 2002 13:45:55 -0800
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neal@cs.uml.edu (Neal H. Walfield) writes:

> > If our only alternatives are
> > 
> > 1) no ssh
> > 2) ssh with no security
> 
> Wrong, which just proves that you have not read this thread: we are
> arguing about entropy; ssh is only a side argument.

*IF*.  Can you read the word *IF*?

The proposition was advanced that no security is better than bad
security.  I disagree with *that* proposition, specifically.

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References:
- Re: K1 images - final report?
  - From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@kemisten.nu>
- Re: K1 images - final report?
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- Re: K1 images - final report?
  - From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@kemisten.nu>
- ssh, /dev/urandom (was: Re: K1 images - final report?)
  - From: Budi Rahardjo <budi@research.indocisc.com>
- Re: ssh, /dev/urandom (was: Re: K1 images - final report?)
  - From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@kemisten.nu>
- Re: ssh, /dev/urandom (was: Re: K1 images - final report?)
  - From: pancake <sergipop@mx3.redestb.es>
- Re: ssh, /dev/urandom (was: Re: K1 images - final report?)
  - From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@kemisten.nu>
- Re: ssh, /dev/urandom
  - From: kilobug@freesurf.fr (Gaël Le Mignot)
- Re: ssh, /dev/urandom
  - From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@kemisten.nu>
- Re: ssh, /dev/urandom
  - From: tb@becket.net (Thomas Bushnell, BSG)
- Re: ssh, /dev/urandom
  - From: Jeff Bailey <jbailey@nisa.net>
- Re: ssh, /dev/urandom
  - From: tb@becket.net (Thomas Bushnell, BSG)
- Re: ssh, /dev/urandom
  - From: neal@cs.uml.edu (Neal H. Walfield)
- Re: ssh, /dev/urandom
  - From: kilobug@freesurf.fr (Gaël Le Mignot)
- Re: ssh, /dev/urandom
  - From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@kemisten.nu>
- Re: ssh, /dev/urandom
  - From: tb@becket.net (Thomas Bushnell, BSG)
- Re: ssh, /dev/urandom
  - From: neal@cs.uml.edu (Neal H. Walfield)
- Re: ssh, /dev/urandom
  - From: tb@becket.net (Thomas Bushnell, BSG)
- Re: ssh, /dev/urandom
  - From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@kemisten.nu>
- Re: ssh, /dev/urandom
  - From: tb@becket.net (Thomas Bushnell, BSG)
- Re: ssh, /dev/urandom
  - From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@kemisten.nu>
- Re: ssh, /dev/urandom
  - From: tb@becket.net (Thomas Bushnell, BSG)
- Re: ssh, /dev/urandom
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