Hello again, I attempted to build libdb4.0, but I'm stuck due to a weird cyclic dependency: apt-get build-dep libdb4.0 want automake-1.4 which requires autoconf which depends on perl which in turn depends on libdb4.0. If despite this, anyone successfully built libdb4.0, could it be put up on alpha.gnu.org? Lots of basic packages like man or mc need it. Thanks, Johannes -- ~/.signature under construction