Re: GNUmach kernel parameters?
1) I don't see a question here. (Or at least, there's nothing that
ends with a question mark.)
2) I did point out to him that his assumptions were wrong. A couple
have now pointed out that drivers are possible in userspace, and even
a goal of ours.
What are you looking for?
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 11:24:29PM +0800, Robert Marlow wrote:
> Is anyone going to answer Joachim's question?
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 04:15:07PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 03:59:32PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote:
> > > As much as I appreciate some aspects of the Hurd's design, I must say I
> > > never really saw the point of having a microkernel if it doesn't allow
> > > you to implement drivers as services.
> >
> > Mach allows you to implement user-space drivers AFAIK. This no
> > limitation in the Hurd, we can do it. Our current drivers are just a
> > big hack at the moment.
> >
> > > Today's hardware is so much of a moving target, that having drivers in
> > > separate processes would be a huge boon, especially considering the fact
> > > how much easier it would be for those untrusted 3rd parties (hardware
> > > manufacturers ;-) to write and debug drivers if they are just standard
> > > process using the standard user mode API.
> >
> > I agree, on L4 we must implement drivers in user-space, but that will
> > probably just a hack of the Linux drivers until we get enough people
> > to write native drivers. This is certainly something we want and will
> > likely be created in the future.
> >
> > > The only popular OS I know that gets this right is QNX, but sadly it's
> > > proprietary as hell.
> >
> > I'm sure we can do better.
> >
> > Jeroen Dekkers
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