Thibaut VARENE wrote: > Though I won't deny the port has been coasting, I don't see why or how > it's been rotting. As I pointed out, the archive is built up to > unprecedented levels and we don't have any major breakage I'm aware > of. ISTR we have had bigger trouble in the past. The most major issue I'm aware of is that aptitude will hang (no longer responds to key input) after it returns from installing packages: #434861. This seems to be a threading issue, so could be related to what Aurelien Jarno mentioned about linuxthreads in another post. It would be great if someone could look into that. Note that the issue on hppa is somewhat different from other arches as for other arches it is fixed with newer kernel versions. > The point I do not agree with, though, is the idea that support for the > port should be dropped just because it seems nobody cares. OTOH, it does really suck that the buildds are frequently unreliable  and that nobody seems to take responsibility for getting the porter machines back up. Having an arch fall behind for longer periods is one of the best ways to get release managers and DDs in general to start thinking about dropping the port. If nobody who is directly involved with the port cares, then why the hell should others care? As most of you probably know I do the basic work to keep the installer working on hppa, but the total lack of interest from anybody else is sometimes demotivating. Properly maintaining the installer _does_ require more architecture-specific knowledge than I have! Examples: - Kyle promised a few times to look into what modules should be included for the installer for current kernels, but that never happened. I've gotten tired of pinging him about that. - The hppa bus is one of the few classes of hardware for which modules are not being autoloaded. I've heard that was being worked on at some point, but AFAIK that never got submitted upstream. Cheers, FJP  There was a 2-month period when hppa was below 90% and was seriously blocking migration of packages (~ week 14-22): http://buildd.debian.org/stats/graph-quarter-big.png
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