Re: Replace libadwaita with libadapta?
On Mon, Aug 18, 2025 at 4:14 PM Zeke Williams <lakeleaf8@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2025 at 3:56 PM Jeremy Bicha <jbicha@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> > I don't think that's very practical. libadwaita is under heavy
> > development. As long as Ubuntu intends to ship the latest GNOME, there
> > are only a few days for Ubuntu to package a new libadwaita beta
> > release before Ubuntu's Feature Freeze deadline. The Linux Mint
> > developers are simply not set up to follow that tight of a schedule.
> Linux Mint doesn't track Ubuntu non LTS releases. It's far more
> manageable for them because they only need to be concerned with the
> latest LTS, which is right now 24.04.
>
> > 1.5 is inadequate. Debian 13 is Debian's latest stable release and
> > already has libadwaita 1.7. Ubuntu 25.10 is in Feature Freeze and has
> > 1.8 Beta.
> Linux Mint actually does have a debian version, which there is a good
> possibility someday they might bail from ubuntu being the base to
> debian if they become dissatisfied enough to jump ship. They used to
> do every bi-yearly releases like ubuntu 10-15 years ago, but these
> days it's just LTS only to make it more manageable for a smaller team.
Your question here was whether Debian should switch to libadapta, but
Debian does not ship libadwaita 1.5. It's common for new GNOME apps to
depend on the latest libadwaita so it's impractical for Debian to be
stuck on GNOME 46 for 2 years because Linux Mint is on a different
schedule. Currently, Debian is on GNOME 48 and will probably switch to
GNOME 49 within a few months. I brought Ubuntu 25.10 into the
conversation because Debian and Ubuntu use most of the same packaging.
Proposed changes go to Debian Unstable and Ubuntu's development
release and only targeted bugfixes ever make it to existing Debian or
Ubuntu stable releases.
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libadwaita-1
Thank you,
Jeremy Bícha
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