Re: GNOME2 in experimental

[seb128 <seb128@debian.org>]

Le jeu 05/09/2002 à 21:48, Rob Bradford a écrit :
> Why do people do this? apt-get dist-upgrade is extemely dangerous and is
> *ONLY* intended to be used to upgrade between stable distributions (and
> possibly between unreleased distributions) but not for general package
> upgrades. It will happily remove half of your system just to resolve one
> conflict with one teeny weeny package you couldnt care less about. In
> short: DONT USE IT!. What you want is apt-get upgrade.

I'm sorry, but the fact is that most of the users use dist-upgrade ...
and I don't know you will change that! 
They use dist-upgrade, because this upgrade more packages.

I don't think using dist-upgrade is a problem for users ... you just
have to add -u option to look what apt-get is doing, and say "n" if you
don't want remove packages. I'm doing that for a while, and that works
fine.


> If you are that scared about upgrading into packages from experimental i
> suggest you do some pinning, or at least default release. man 5
> apt_preferences and man 5 apt.conf might be of some help to you too.

No problem for me. But I'm thinking to the users that doesn't know what
they are doing .. yes perhaps they have not your knowledge of apt and
debian, but is it a reason to break their system and say they have to
know what they are doing ? 
Do you want to make a Debian a distribution where beginners are not
welcome .. a only devels distribution ... just continue in this way, but
I don't think good for Debian!

> I recommend you dont waste your breath on arguments that have been heard
> here many times before, if you feel you can make a productive comment
> then follow up on the technical committee discussions on #154950 and
> tech-ctte mailing list.

I was just giving my opinion about this transition. 
You're right for technical committee discussions, I've post on it.

 

Cheers,


Sebastien Bacher