[DebianGIS] Re: I wan´t my name na list ok.
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> 1. Re: Re: Re: gdal (Francesco Paolo Lovergine)
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> 4. Re: status (Petter Reinholdtsen)
> 5. Re: Re: status (Paolo Cavallini)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 13:06:11 +0100
> From: Francesco Paolo Lovergine <frankie@debian.org>
> Subject: Re: [DebianGIS] Re: Re: gdal
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> On Wed, Dec 28, 2005 at 08:42:57AM +0100, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
> > Can the stable + backports approach be used for a recent amd64 machine?
> > pc
> >
>
> BPO has amd64 repository and I recently created the amd64 and ppc areas
> on dgis. We only need to build pkgs.
>
>
> --
> Francesco P. Lovergine
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 10:10:44 -0200
> From: "" <nunos@unb.br>
> Subject: [DebianGIS] Re: Pkg-grass-general Digest, Vol 6, Issue 27
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> > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 08:42:57 +0100
> > From: Paolo Cavallini <cavallini@faunalia.it>
> > Subject: Re: [DebianGIS] Re: Re: gdal
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> > Can the stable + backports approach be used for a recent amd64 machine?
> > pc
> >
> > At 10:10, mercoledì 21 dicembre 2005, Francesco Paolo Lovergine has
> probably
> >
> > written:
> > >
> > > As already said ad nauseam, PLEASE use STABLE + BACKPORTS
> > > (e.g. an accurate selection of backports.org and dgis stable or
> > > stable-experimental). You can be decently stable and up-to-date
> > > in that way.
> > --
> > Paolo Cavallini
> > email+jabber: cavallini@faunalia.it
> > www.faunalia.it
> > Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy Tel: (+39)348-3801953
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 10:26:45 +0100
> > From: Paolo Cavallini <cavallini@faunalia.it>
> > Subject: [DebianGIS] status
> > To: DebianGIS <pkg-grass-general@lists.alioth.debian.org>
> > Message-ID: <[🔎] 200512281026.45561.cavallini@faunalia.it>
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> > Hi all.
> > While wishing an happy new year to everybody, I would also like to point
> out
> >
> > the present difficult situation for a debian gis user. In short, what I
> > consider the important gis programs (gdal, postgis, grass, qgis, mapserver)
>
> > cannot be installed without problems. The solution of this impasse seems to
>
> > require rebuilding of the whole lot, so it can take weeks, maybe months.
> > It would be great if someone would suggest a (temporary or stable)
> solution
> > to
> > this.
> > All the best.
> > pc
> > --
> > Paolo Cavallini
> > email+jabber: cavallini@faunalia.it
> > www.faunalia.it
> > Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy Tel: (+39)348-3801953
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 10:11:27 -0200
> From: "" <nunos@unb.br>
> Subject: [DebianGIS] Re: don?t list ok !
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> > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 08:42:57 +0100
> > From: Paolo Cavallini <cavallini@faunalia.it>
> > Subject: Re: [DebianGIS] Re: Re: gdal
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> > Can the stable + backports approach be used for a recent amd64 machine?
> > pc
> >
> > At 10:10, mercoledì 21 dicembre 2005, Francesco Paolo Lovergine has
> probably
> >
> > written:
> > >
> > > As already said ad nauseam, PLEASE use STABLE + BACKPORTS
> > > (e.g. an accurate selection of backports.org and dgis stable or
> > > stable-experimental). You can be decently stable and up-to-date
> > > in that way.
> > --
> > Paolo Cavallini
> > email+jabber: cavallini@faunalia.it
> > www.faunalia.it
> > Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy Tel: (+39)348-3801953
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 10:26:45 +0100
> > From: Paolo Cavallini <cavallini@faunalia.it>
> > Subject: [DebianGIS] status
> > To: DebianGIS <pkg-grass-general@lists.alioth.debian.org>
> > Message-ID: <[🔎] 200512281026.45561.cavallini@faunalia.it>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Hi all.
> > While wishing an happy new year to everybody, I would also like to point
> out
> >
> > the present difficult situation for a debian gis user. In short, what I
> > consider the important gis programs (gdal, postgis, grass, qgis, mapserver)
>
> > cannot be installed without problems. The solution of this impasse seems to
>
> > require rebuilding of the whole lot, so it can take weeks, maybe months.
> > It would be great if someone would suggest a (temporary or stable)
> solution
> > to
> > this.
> > All the best.
> > pc
> > --
> > Paolo Cavallini
> > email+jabber: cavallini@faunalia.it
> > www.faunalia.it
> > Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy Tel: (+39)348-3801953
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 14:05:03 +0100
> From: Petter Reinholdtsen <pere@hungry.com>
> Subject: [DebianGIS] Re: status
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> [Paolo Cavallini]
> > Hi all.
> > While wishing an happy new year to everybody, I would also like to point
> out
> > the present difficult situation for a debian gis user. In short, what I
> > consider the important gis programs (gdal, postgis, grass, qgis, mapserver)
>
> > cannot be installed without problems.
>
> I assume you talk about debian/sid and /etch?
>
> > The solution of this impasse seems to require rebuilding of the
> > whole lot, so it can take weeks, maybe months. It would be great if
> > someone would suggest a (temporary or stable) solution to this.
>
> Well, it do not have to take weeks or months. First, someone need to
> finish make a new gdal package, then I or anyone else with upload
> privileges can upload it into unstable. Next, a quick re-upload of
> the other packages can be done in a few hours to get the rest of the
> packages to rebuild with the new gdal library.
>
> Why should this take so long to fix?
>
> I had a look at
> <URL:http://pkg-grass.alioth.debian.org/debiangis-vs-unstable.html>,
> and the status look better and better every day. :)
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 09:56:09 +0100
> From: Paolo Cavallini <cavallini@faunalia.it>
> Subject: Re: [DebianGIS] Re: status
> To: pkg-grass-general@lists.alioth.debian.org
> Message-ID: <[🔎] 200512290956.10447.cavallini@faunalia.it>
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>
> Hi Petter.
> Thanks for your encouraging email.
> I use etch/testing. I am glad you see the solution not so far away.
> However, it is a fact that for a normal user (not able to compile) it is now
>
> more or less impossible to have the whole freegis suite on one machine,
> either stable, testing, unstable, or debiangis (taking some packages from
> unstable and some from dgis can be a bit intricated, and I have found no way,
>
> except for recompiling, for having all the "big five" on the same machine).
> >From this point of view, the situation is unfortunately stable since this
> summer, thus my pessimistic view.
> We do a lot of professional work, install several machines, do courses etc,
> and the installation of freegis packages is always a pain. I also thought of
>
> opening a sponsoring subscription to speed up things (I am willing to
> contribute, of course), but I'm not sure whether this can help.
> So please all that are in power do an end-of-the-year effort, and finish the
>
> gdal 1.3.1, so things could start loking better early next year.
> All best wishes to all for a happy mapping in 2006!
> pc
>
> At 14:05, mercoledì 28 dicembre 2005, Petter Reinholdtsen has probably
> written:
> > [Paolo Cavallini]
> >
> > I assume you talk about debian/sid and /etch?
> >
> > Well, it do not have to take weeks or months. First, someone need to
> > finish make a new gdal package, then I or anyone else with upload
> > privileges can upload it into unstable. Next, a quick re-upload of
> > the other packages can be done in a few hours to get the rest of the
> > packages to rebuild with the new gdal library.
> >
> > Why should this take so long to fix?
> >
> > I had a look at
> > <URL:http://pkg-grass.alioth.debian.org/debiangis-vs-unstable.html>,
> > and the status look better and better every day. :)
> --
> Paolo Cavallini
> email+jabber: cavallini@faunalia.it
> www.faunalia.it
> Piazza Garibaldi 5 - 56025 Pontedera (PI), Italy Tel: (+39)348-3801953
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 09:58:22 +0100
> From: Francesco Paolo Lovergine <frankie@debian.org>
> Subject: [DebianGIS] Summary about libgdal issue for ftp-masters,
> please contribute and do not break the thread
> To: pkg-grass-general@lists.alioth.debian.org
> Message-ID: <[🔎] 20051229085822.GB8311@ba.issia.cnr.it>
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> I think we need a summary about the libgdal issue to avoid rejecting from
> ftpmasters for hijacking.
>
> AFAIK, we are going to release a libgdal1.3.1 package (maybe libgdal1.3 could
> be more appropriate ?)
> to superseed the current sid libgdal due to changes in C++ API. As
> stated by upstream, C++ interface is far from being stabilized and
> currently break things at every new release. The C API is stable, so the
> SONAME do not change. Unfortunately a few packages depends on the C++
> interfaces, so we need to keep in sync things at source level among them,
> which is suboptimal,
> but better than having programs faulting at every new release of the libgdal
> program.
>
> Future releases will keep their version in the library pkg name as well.
> Next step will be moving the C++ part in a standalone library pkg, and
> waiting for a final (eventually) stabilzation at upstream level, before
> reverting
> finally things to a more sane status.
>
> Reference:
>
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-grass-general/2005-December/001498.html
>
>
> --
> Francesco P. Lovergine
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:28:07 +0100
> From: Francesco Paolo Lovergine <frankie@debian.org>
> Subject: Re: [DebianGIS] Summary about libgdal issue for ftp-masters,
> please contribute and do not break the thread
> To: pkg-grass-general@lists.alioth.debian.org
> Message-ID: <[🔎] 20051229092807.GC8311@ba.issia.cnr.it>
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> On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 09:58:22AM +0100, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote:
> > I think we need a summary about the libgdal issue to avoid rejecting from
> ftpmasters for hijacking.
> >
> > AFAIK, we are going to release a libgdal1.3.1 package (maybe libgdal1.3
> could be more appropriate ?)
> > to superseed the current sid libgdal due to changes in C++ API. As
> > stated by upstream, C++ interface is far from being stabilized and
> > currently break things at every new release. The C API is stable, so the
> > SONAME do not change. Unfortunately a few packages depends on the C++
> > interfaces, so we need to keep in sync things at source level among them,
> which is suboptimal,
> > but better than having programs faulting at every new release of the
> libgdal program.
> >
> > Future releases will keep their version in the library pkg name as well.
> > Next step will be moving the C++ part in a standalone library pkg, and
> > waiting for a final (eventually) stabilzation at upstream level, before
> reverting
> > finally things to a more sane status.
> >
> > Reference:
>
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-grass-general/2005-December/001498.html
> >
> >
>
> List of rdepends for current (sid) libgdal1c2a (1.2.6-1.3)
>
> xastir
> thuban
> python-mapscript
> python-gdal
> php5-mapscript
> php4-mapscript
> perl-mapscript
> openscenegraph
> mapserver-bin
> libopenscenegraph1c2
> libgrass
> libgdal1-grass
> libgdal1-dev
> libgdal-doc
> grass
> gdal-bin
> cgi-mapserver
>
>
> --
> Francesco P. Lovergine
>
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