Concern over unforeseen consequences, and the fact that there is now in fact a newer g77-2.96 that works better, means that 2.96 will likely continue to be the default for ia64. Objective C, on the other hand, no longer exists in 2.96 on ia64 at all. -- John R. Daily Progeny Linux Systems Consultant jdaily@progeny.com Master of the ephemeral epiphany