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[Freedombox-discuss] startup 'Nebula' releases personal cloud device



On 3 April 2013 19:38, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com> wrote:

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> > From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho at gmail.com>
> >To: Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org>
> >Cc: freedombox-discuss <freedombox-discuss at lists.alioth.debian.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2013 6:07 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] startup 'Nebula' releases personal
> cloud device
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> >On 3 April 2013 10:43, Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org> wrote:
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> >On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 09:03:19PM +0200, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
> >>
> >>> mining one bitcoin and the freedombox hardware is free :)
> >>
> >>You've not been keeping up to date: GPGPU clients are below
> >>energy costs and even ASIC mining rigs are iffy on ROI.
> >>
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> >
> >An ASIC should be OK, if you can get one.  GPU / FGPA will generate more
> than the electricity but will unlikely pay or the hardware.
> >
> >
> >But you are thinking about a bitcoin only paradigm.
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> >There is room for the coinspace to be 100 or 1000 times bigger.  If GNU
> had
> started a coin 1-2 years ago I think all the major mining pools would
> have merge mined it, making it more attack resilient.  They are
> generally good folks.
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> >If FBX could come up with a creative hack to make useful distributed coin
> system, you could lower hardware costs.
> >You could also just raise money and give away FBX hardware.  That is more
> secure than any
> distributed coin system you can come up with-- no matter how quickly or
> cleverly the system
> delivers tokens to the user to recoup the cost of the FBX it will always
> be slower than getting it
> for free.  (It also requires 0% cpu usage, which is remarkably efficient.)
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> The only extant cryptocurrency I know that would even be able to generate
> tokens on a FBX
> is Timekoin, and if you can figure out how it guards against rampant Sybil
> attacks please
> let me know.
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forking a new coin would not be hard

at this point you'd probably need a sympathetic mining pool leader to get
going, and to add a merge mine, which there may well be a few, for a
project like this

i dont think the freedom of thought movement needs to stop with hardware
and software hacking, we are about hacking free culture too, and there are
some FLOSS projects that have done this quite effectively recent times ...


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> -Jonathan
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