[Freedombox-discuss] FreedomBox/Unhosted/PageKite for Access Innovation Prize 2012
On 1 July 2012 19:44, Markus Sabadello <markus.sabadello at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, having your own data on the FreedomBox via remoteStorage is exactly
> the core of the proposal.
> That, plus potentially integration with the FunkFeuer community wireless
> network in Vienna.
>
> Okay I have to say this..
> We haven't submitted the proposal yet.
> If for some reason this is not a good idea,
> if this looks like an attempt to "hijack" FreedomBox, or "capitalize" on
> it, or anything like that,
> if there already is some sort of relationship between FreedomBox and
> Access that makes this proposal pointless,
> then we don't have to submit it.
>
> It was just an idea we came up with.
> It would effectively show ONE thing the FreedomBox could do (out of many
> ideas<http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/freedombox-discuss/2012-May/003867.html>,
> including social networking).
> It would show how different projects (FreedomBox, Unhosted, PageKite,
> FunkFeuer) could complement each other.
>
> I think we should at least wait until the hackfest is over, maybe longer,
> before we submit it.
>
Makes sense to wait for feedback from the hackfest.
Storing my own data (on my own box) is something I find very interesting.
But as far as I know I'm one of the only people that does that.
Im curious as to what solutions you might suggest for the data storage, and
what features are avaiable? ( personally I use data.fm )
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> Markus
>
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> On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho at gmail.com>wrote:
>
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>> On 30 June 2012 14:07, Markus Sabadello <markus.sabadello at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> To be honest, I have never built a Debian package nor am I deeply
>>> familiar with the process.
>>>
>>> But all the pieces we're considering have Debian packages, i.e.
>>> PageKite, OLSRd, and for Unhosted there is OwnCloud, which has been
>>> considered a number of times on this list already.
>>>
>>> There really isn't much new about the proposal, just to help assemble a
>>> few things to the point where they can be demo'd at events and understood
>>> by end-users.
>>> It would help show the public that FreedomBox is real..
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for the response. A couple of questions about the proposal:
>>
>> Is the idea here to save your own data (ie remote storage) on your
>> freedom box?
>>
>> Would a minimal viable product, to demo FreedomBox, need to contain some
>> kind of social network?
>>
>>
>>> Markus
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Melvin Carvalho <
>>> melvincarvalho at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
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>>>> On 30 June 2012 13:03, Markus Sabadello <markus at projectdanube.org>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Heya,
>>>>>
>>>>> So back in May, when I did a FreedomBox-related demo<http://blog.projectdanube.org/2012/05/freedombox-at-the-internet-identity-workshop/>at the Internet Identity Workshop, I was made aware of the Access movement,
>>>>> which hosted the recent RightsCon and is also doing a lot of other great
>>>>> work.
>>>>>
>>>>> They are now calling for proposals for the Access Innovation Prize<https://www.accessnow.org/prize>where you can win $20k.
>>>>>
>>>>> So Michiel of Unhosted, Bjarni of PageKite, and myself have decided to
>>>>> submit a proposal, which would include building a simple FreedomBox
>>>>> prototype that runs an Unhosted "remoteStorage" component and PageKite to
>>>>> make it accessible from the open web. Also, the idea is to try integrate
>>>>> FreedomBox with the local FunkFeuer community mesh network in Vienna. We
>>>>> haven't submitted the proposal yet (deadline is August 15th), but here's
>>>>> the current text we're working on:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://projectdanube.pbworks.com/w/page/54796496/Access%20Innovation%20Prize%202012
>>>>>
>>>>> Basically, the idea is that you could use any Unhosted-enabled web
>>>>> application out there, and your data remains on your FreedomBox.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that on the other thread there's a discussion about leadership
>>>>> and about joining in.
>>>>> I had all these questions too since I started working with FreedomBox,
>>>>> e.g. when I did demos, I wasn't sure to what extent I could speak
>>>>> "officially" about FreedomBox, how I could get involved, etc.
>>>>> In light of current criticism and allegations of vaporware, I think
>>>>> the answer is simply that everybody with ideas and resources should try to
>>>>> get something done in whatever way works.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, so if we win the prize, then this could serve a few purposes..
>>>>> 1. The three of us would have some $$$ to actively work and contribute
>>>>> to the FreedomBox at least for a little while.
>>>>> 2. The stuff we would work on (putting Unhosted and PageKite on the
>>>>> box) seems to align well with the "DropBox Replacement" idea that has been
>>>>> floating around.
>>>>> 3. We would have an actual (limited functionality, but working)
>>>>> FreedomBox, and a minimal viable product that can be demo'd at conferences.
>>>>> 4. The prize would mean a PR boost for the involved projects.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think..?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Will there be a debian package for this prototype?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Markus
>>>>> --
>>>>> Project Danube: http://projectdanube.org
>>>>> Personal Data Ecosystem Consortium: http://personaldataecosystem.org/
>>>>>
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