[Freedombox-discuss] Debian FreedomBox = Existing Debian packages on plug hardware
I don't like where this project is headed. So I am out. I'll keep my
eyes peeled for a project that is actually attempting to address this
freedom box concept rather than humping debian on a closed and relatively
useless hardware arch.
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho at gmail.com>wrote:
> On 1 March 2011 17:02, Jonas Smedegaard <dr at jones.dk> wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 04:41:14PM +0100, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
> >>>>>> The only problem I see is Android specifics, which won't play nice
> >>>>>> with the Debian toolchain.
> >>>>> If I am not mistaken, the topic of this mailinglist is the _Debian_
> >>>>> FreedomBox project. Not the Google FreedomBox project or whatever
> >>>> I'm not sure what your point is.
> >>> This mailinglist was created in direct response to a talk made in July
> >>> a Debian conference, where Eben Moglen challenged the Debian community
> >>> put the already production-ready Debian distro onto the already
> >>> production-ready Plug devices, "just" make the combination dead simple
> >>> non-geeks to consume.
> >>> Debian supports Plug devices, not Android phones. Debian also support
> >>> gazillion devices other than Plug devices, and a gazillion other use
> >>> but I dare say this particular project was created with the relatively
> >>> narrow scope of consumer-friendly design + Plug devices + Debian subset
> >>> freedom-enabling technologies.
> >> What about Eben's original talk about NYU a year ago, 'Freedom in the
> >> Cloud', where he coined the term 'Freedom Box'?
> >> I believe he mentioned both Fedora and Debian.. IMHO he was promoting
> >> the idea of free software in the freedom box, and selected Debian as a
> >> leader rather than an absolute.
> > Several Eben Moglen talks are original. Possibly the term FreedomBox was
> > _introduced_ at a talk a year ago. I can't say for sure, and also find
> > irrelevant for this discussion.
> Here's the original. Worth watching, IMHO.
> > Do you not understand that a different talk spawned this mailinglist?
> > Or do you not care and feel the goal should be more broad nevertheless?
> I do feel the general goals of the freedom box should be a broad one.
> Totally respect the original of this list and the debian nature. I
> run debian myself and am happy for that to be the focus.
> However, I was unsure that other related freedom box projects are
> completely out of scope at this early stage, but if you tell me, I'll
> believe you.
> > Eben is great inspiration, but do not dictate work done here.
> > Neither do I. Please reread this thread if you feel Debian is all I care
> > about.
> > - Jonas
> > --
> > * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt
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