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Re: installation-report: Almost successful Etch installation with di-beta3



Ha Geert,

Je frustratie en irritatie zijn volkomen duidelijk, en waarschijnlijk
ook gegrond maar ik vroeg me af, met alle respect, waarom dit bericht op
een -events mailinglist geplaatst wordt en (voor zover ik zien kan) op
geen andere. Voor terugmelding (van complimenten of bugs) lijkt dit ook
al niet de aangewezen plaats.
Tenzij je natuurlijk zowel tevreden als ontevreden Debian gebruikers
uitnodigt fysiek bijeen te komen en hierover van gedachten te wisselen,
in welk geval in je mail slechts plaats & datum/tijd ontbreken :)
Wat dacht je van volgende week vrijdag (1 september), cafe Jef (UvT) of
het Buitenbeentje (korte heuvel), waar TOSti's zijn, beiden te Tilburg,
uurtje of 3, 4?

Je toegenegen
~Gwynn

ps as vrijdag is extreem kort dag, maar moet Joostvb niet welkom geheten
worden, terug in het land der levenden?


> Hallo,
> 
> Eerst een E-mail dat op de mailinglist Debian-boot voorbij kwam.
> Daarna mijn inhoudelijk verhaal.
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from Christian Perrier <bubulle@debian.org> -----
> 
> From: Christian Perrier <bubulle@debian.org>
> To: Eugeniy Meshcheryakov <eugeniy.meshcheryakov@googlemail.com>,
> 	384323@bugs.debian.org
> Cc: Dmitry Semyonov <linulin@gmail.com>, debian-l10n-russian@lists.debian.org,
> 	debian-russian@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Bug#384323: Bug#384248: installation-report: Almost successful Etch installation with di-beta3
> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:55:44 +0200
> Reply-To: Christian Perrier <bubulle@debian.org>, 384323@bugs.debian.org
> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11)
> 
> severity 384323 important
> thanks
> 
> Quoting Eugenyi Meshcheryakov analyzing a bug report about broken
> installer in Russian:
> 
> 
> > I tried default installation in Russian (RF) in qemu with network off, and
> > console-cyrillic was installed. There was also dialogs displayed by
> > console-cyrillic after tasksel were I was able to select switch keys,
> > but those choices was later overwritten by localechooser's
> > finish-install. That was not a problem in earlier versions of d-i
> > because console-cyrillic was configured in second stage, after
> > finish-install (or how it was called). But now it is confusing.
> > localechooser should preseed console-cyrillic or do not try to change
> > it's configuration at all. This bug is probably reproducible with all
> > languages that have cyr=... in languagelist (Russian, Belarusian).
> 
> 
> That bug is then here since....D-I beta2 IN MARCH 2006....and not a
> single Russian user noticed...:-(
> 
> I find this pretty sad and this indeed shows the poor level of testing
> that some language teams ad international users and developers give to
> the localized installer.
> 
> It somewhat reinforces the feeling of Frans that we really should
> activate languages that HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY TESTED.
> 
> I'm yelling right now because I'm quite angry. We put a lot of efforts
> to allow you guys having an installer translated in all your languages
> and such negligence is really desperating.
> 
> This is not addressed to you, Eugen, of course. I know that you not
> only *translate* to your language but also TEST the installation in
> Ukrainian. You even do properly analysis for bugs in other languages
> like this one and I'm grateful to you.
> 
> I wish I could say the same for all other languages.
> 
> Thanks, Dmitry, also, for reporting this bug. There's at least one
> Russian user who uses D-I in his own language I consider this bug
> makes D-I currently not releasable with Russian activated.
> 
> 
> ----- End forwarded message -----
> 
> In het kort: "Doe terugmelding"
> 
> Met meer woorden:
> 
>  Het is natuurlijk fantastisch om tevreden Debian gebruiker te zijn.
>  Er is ook niets mis mee met vragen stellen als het minder goed gaat.
>  Laten weten dat Debian werkt is echter ook belangrijk.
> 
> Dank je wel
> Geert Stappers

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