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Re: [debian-edu-commits] [Debian Wiki] Update of "DebianEdu/Status/Buster" by DominikGeorge



Hi,

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 10:02:02AM +0000, Holger Levsen wrote:
> file a bug against the proper xfce package?!

I already did, as you may have found out looking at the status page.

Holger, you keep conveying contradictory messages. You keep saying that

 a) bugs should only be filed after verifying they are not a local setup
    issue,

but when I try to get issues verified beforehand, you complain that

 b) bugs should be filed instead.

This is very hard for me to interpret. I am doing my best to both rule
out local issues *and* file bugs once it is clear it is a general issue.

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 11:25:39AM +0100, Wolfgang Schweer wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 12:03:35AM +0100, Dominik George wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 01:20:22PM +0100, Wolfgang Schweer wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 07, 2018 at 10:39:33PM -0000, Debian Wiki wrote:
> > > > The "DebianEdu/Status/Buster" page has been changed by DominikGeorge:
> > > 
> > > > + * Xfce is missing a volume control by default
> > > 
> > > Thanks for reporting the issue; it's not reproducible for me.
> > 
> > That's strange… Actually, the issue also happens when installing Debian
> > buster mainline with the Xfce desktop. Sound works, and the PulseAudio
> > applet can be added manually and it works as well, but it is not added
> > to the panel by default. I also talked to Xfce upstream and they confirm
> > it is not added to the panel in the default config.
> 
> Thanks for providing details. There's nothing strange as Xfce isn't 
> missing a volume control: the PulseAudio volume control is available via 
> the Multimedia menu like expected.

Sorry, but this sounds somewhat ridiculous. No average user expects that
they have to start a separate program from somewhere to control volume -
this is not one of the "learning to know some features of Linux
desktops" things like the desktop switching thing we discussed on IRC,
as every desktop used by average users ha a volume control right on the
default desktop (and Xfce also had before replacing xfce4-mixer with
xfce4-pulse-plugin).

> Please consider to update the status page that you refer to the panel.

OK, but it already says that *Xfce* is missing a volume control -
pavucontrol or anything else from the menu is not Xfce.

-nik

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