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Bug#893120: debian-edu-install: uninstallable on ahrd disk thrice the size mentioned in manual



On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 08:18:19PM +0000, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:58:52PM +0100, Wolfgang Schweer wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 01:21:33PM +0000, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > > isnt this bug a manifestation of three bugs:
> > As far as I can tell: only sort of. In the first place the bug shows 
> > that communicating how to install different profiles could be better. 
> > Maybe there should be BIG and FAT hints; but it might be wishful 
> > thinking this could make a difference.
>  
> I'm not sure why you advocate only documenting this in the manual,
> instead of changing the default…

The default desktop is set as kernel command line param. This is done 
when the ISO image is generated (see e.g. CONF-stretch-usbstick.sh for 
the BD ISO image). So no way to change it now.

In Oslo we discussed about what should be the default desktop (being 
MATE at that time); iirc we decided to keep KDE as default but to 
recommend LXDE for LTSP clients. On the mailing lists there was feedback 
(also after the Stretch release) that LXDE was well suited for LTSP. So 
it's somehow known...
 
> maybe we can use the minidebconf in hamburg to get usuable
> debian-edu-buster images build on debian.org infrastructure…

sounds good.
 
> > > 2. ltsp default should be lxde clients
> > LTSP thin clients need LXDE (or another lightweiht DE like Xfce or MATE) 
> > on the server side as well; so IMO the recommondatation in the manual 
> > install chapter (use 'desktop=lxde') is already the right solution.
> 
> again: my suggestion was to change the default because KDE is broken. I
> really dont get why you suggest to keep KDE and then to document that
> people should not use it.

KDE works quite well for profiles 'Standalone', 'Roaming-Workstation' 
and 'Workstation'. Just for LTSP clients a decent desktop like KDE (or 
GNOME) isn't really suited.

Wolfgang

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