Re: More on the future LDAP admin gui in Debian Edu
Le Thursday 21 October 2010 17:43:26 Jürgen Leibner, vous avez écrit :
> On Thursday 21 October 2010 17:17 Andreas B. Mundt wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> Hi Andreas,
Hello,
> > once again a mail about the LDAP administration tool we need in
> > Debian-Edu. Since Petter's mail
> > <URL:http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/2010/09/msg00110.html>
> > almost a month passed:
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 06:59:44PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> > > Here is a short update on the LDAP admin status for Debian Edu
> > > based on Squeeze.
> >
> > The only changes I know of concern GOsa and the latest package in
> > squeeze which fixes the password exposure issue; now you need to
> > be either root or www-data to see the environment in the process
> > list. Changes to debian-edu-config are minimal, I will apply them as
> > soon as 2.6.11-2 enters squeeze, which should happen in approximately
> > a week from now. The mass creation of users works in my tests too.
> >
> > Please add information about progress on the other tools mentioned.
> >
> > My question is:
> >
> > What is the plan? Almost since the beginning of this year we decide
> > *not* to decide anything at all concerning LDAP administration. I
> > think this is fine for some time, to see how things evolve.
> >
> > But at some point it just takes away motivation and leads to a
> > passive waiting for the things to come. Nobody wants to spend his
> > time on things that are rejected in the end.
> >
> > How long do we want to continue waiting and for what? For another
> > alternative tool turning up at the horizon that promises everything?
> > Squeeze+1? Miracles? Or do we prefer to have 2 half-baked
> > administration tools, one for users and groups, one for machines and
> > netgroups, a couple of scripts to add users and ldapvi for all
> > remaining stuff?
> >
> > In my opinion it is better to accept that there is no perfect tool
> > available at the moment (and perhaps forever), and to decide _now_
> > which administration tool we want to ship for squeeze. After that
> > decision, it makes sense to complete the integration. There should be
> > time left to test and look into remaining issues and fixes, to
> > document and prepare the manual.
> >
> > So let's name things by their names:
> >
> > As Petter already listed, we have 3 candidates: CipUX, GOsa and
> > lwat. (Or is there already another one approaching?)
> >
> > Which tool do we ship for squeeze? (And keep in mind: not deciding is
> > also a decision, but I doubt it's the best one for
> > Debian-Edu/skolelinux a couple (?) of months before squeeze release).
>
> for me, lwat is dead, CipUX is not suited enough for the system
> administration tasks and GOsa is not near enough to the educational
> tasks.
> The smallest pain seems to be GOsa in my opinion.
> So please go ahead and integrate it, with the hope to get help from the
> GOsa people around here.
If GOsa is decide to be the interface to Debian Edu i will be happy to
help you.
Cheers
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