On Thursday 21 October 2010 17:17 Andreas B. Mundt wrote: > Hi, Hi Andreas, > once again a mail about the LDAP administration tool we need in > Debian-Edu. Since Petter's mail > <URL:http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/2010/09/msg00110.html> > almost a month passed: > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 06:59:44PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > Here is a short update on the LDAP admin status for Debian Edu > > based on Squeeze. > > The only changes I know of concern GOsa and the latest package in > squeeze which fixes the password exposure issue; now you need to > be either root or www-data to see the environment in the process > list. Changes to debian-edu-config are minimal, I will apply them as > soon as 2.6.11-2 enters squeeze, which should happen in approximately > a week from now. The mass creation of users works in my tests too. > > Please add information about progress on the other tools mentioned. > > My question is: > > What is the plan? Almost since the beginning of this year we decide > *not* to decide anything at all concerning LDAP administration. I > think this is fine for some time, to see how things evolve. > > But at some point it just takes away motivation and leads to a > passive waiting for the things to come. Nobody wants to spend his > time on things that are rejected in the end. > > How long do we want to continue waiting and for what? For another > alternative tool turning up at the horizon that promises everything? > Squeeze+1? Miracles? Or do we prefer to have 2 half-baked > administration tools, one for users and groups, one for machines and > netgroups, a couple of scripts to add users and ldapvi for all > remaining stuff? > > In my opinion it is better to accept that there is no perfect tool > available at the moment (and perhaps forever), and to decide _now_ > which administration tool we want to ship for squeeze. After that > decision, it makes sense to complete the integration. There should be > time left to test and look into remaining issues and fixes, to > document and prepare the manual. > > So let's name things by their names: > > As Petter already listed, we have 3 candidates: CipUX, GOsa and > lwat. (Or is there already another one approaching?) > > Which tool do we ship for squeeze? (And keep in mind: not deciding is > also a decision, but I doubt it's the best one for > Debian-Edu/skolelinux a couple (?) of months before squeeze release). for me, lwat is dead, CipUX is not suited enough for the system administration tasks and GOsa is not near enough to the educational tasks. The smallest pain seems to be GOsa in my opinion. So please go ahead and integrate it, with the hope to get help from the GOsa people around here. Greetings, Jürgen -- juergen@leibner.eu GnuPG Key ID: 0x9CD43E5A Finger-Print: D0BC A628 A265 2FF9 A9CC 4D69 F59C 59BA 9CD4 3E5A
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