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Bug#586243: education-desktop-sugar: please remove this package, it's outdated and confuses users



[Sascha Silbe]
> The problem with this package is that it misleads users into
> installing it and turning their system into something that works
> differently (LTSP) from what they expect (a regular desktop).

This do not sound right.  There is nothing related ot LTSP in the
education-desktop-sugar meta package.

> See the original bug description:
> 
> === Begin ===
> Please remove education-desktop-sugar from sid/squeeze. It depends on
> obsolete package names and confuses users.
> The description suggests this is what to install to get a complete Sugar
> installation on a desktop, whereas it will actually install the Debian
> Edu suite (+ Sugar). One user even reported it "will hose your boot" (the
> system hung part-way through the boot process - unfortunately no more
> details are available as he was in a hurry and overwrote the installation
> with Fedora afterwards in order to get a working Sugar installation).
> === End ===
> 
> If someone cares about this package enough to maintain it, changing the
> description (to point out that it's LTSP + Sugar, not Sugar on a desktop)
> and updating the dependencies should be enough. But without an active
> maintainer removing the package is the best option and should be done
> ASAP.

It isn't LTSP + Sugar.  Where did you get that idea?  The task is for
Sugar on a Debian Edu desktop.  The problem is that there are very few
sugar packages in Debian (both testing and unstable).  If the package
lists in education-desktop-sugar is wrong, please provide information
on exactly what is wrong.

This is the current task content.  What is wrong with it?

Depends:     education-common
Why:         Need the common packages
Responsible: Petter Reinholdtsen
NeedConfig:  no

Depends:     xserver-xorg, xinit, xorg
Why:         The X server and related packages.
Responsible: Holger Levsen
NeedConfig:  no

Depends:     sugar, sugar-artwork, sugar-calculate-activity, \
             sugar-chat-activity, sugar-journal-activity, \
             sugar-pippy-activity, sugar-presence-service, \
             sugar-sharedstate-classes, sugar-sharingtest-activity, \
             sugar-web-activity, matchbox, network-manager
Recommends:  net-tools, gstreamer0.10-plugins-good, xserver-xephyr, \
             x11-xserver-utils, openssh-client, ttf-dejavu-extra, \
             python-olpc-datastore, python-gst0.10, avahi-daemon
Suggests:    sugar-doc, etoys, etoys-doc, squeak-vm
Avoid:       xdm
Why:         Sugar desktop environment
Responsible: Holger Levsen
NeedConfig:  no

Ignore:      ejabberd
Why:         This is the collaboration server used by Sugar.  Should probably be
             included in the main-server instead of the desktop.
Responsible: Holger Levsen
NeedConfig:  ?


Happy hacking,
-- 
Petter Reinholdtsen



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