Hi, i have not yet seen any support for that update proposal. Is that, noone wants that package updated in edu-etch? I do not want to judge only on Holgers advice on that packages, as the package changes are huge. If we find 1 or more supporters, i am willing to hint that package into edu-etch. Greetings Martin -- [root@debian /root]# man real-life No manual entry for real-life