On Monday 26 March 2007 19:08, Christian Perrier wrote: > IMHO, l-c should completely be dropped out from unstable. In the > future, when we identify l10n/i18n releated things that need to bo > configured according to the system locale, we should work on them > with package maintainers, not circumvent the problem. Just one note here. I didn't comment in the thread, because I agree with most that is said and didn't find anything else to add. However, I would suggest to postpone dropping l-c out completely. The reason is l-c's initial origin. It was not a Debian package, but a Debian-Edu/Skolelinux package, originally written by Petter Reindholdsten, which I modified to use in Debian. Yes, I agree completely that it was a policy violation, but I disagree that it was an "ugly hack", in fact it was quite simple and elegant in how it modified the configurations scripts, and to my knowledge it never broke a system due to misconfiguration -which is what "ugly hacks" do most of the time. At the time of sarge it was the only available way to handle localization. So please, try not to insult other people's work when you make such comments. In any case, I'm not writing this email to justify my or Petter's work, I know exactly what l-c's purpose was and how good or bad it is. What I'm suggesting is that there might be some use for it in Debian-Edu still -which is why I am cc'ing to this list. Debian-Edu has a much more relaxed policy for configuring other packages' configuration files at install-time, and it might need this package yet to handle some packages that don't properly handle themselves. I guess, all it needs is some word from Petter or other Skolelinux lead developer to state that "we don't need l-c anymore, you can drop it from unstable" or "no, please don't drop it, we still use it". FWIW, in about a few weeks I'll be much more able to work on Debian stuff, as I'll move to my new offices -I just started my own company- where I'll be able to work without the constant need to interrupt my work due to babysitting :-) I will definately start working on Debian-Edu again, since it is a part of my business here as well - I'm promoting a country-wide Skolelinux solution and there is a pilot program now, where I managed to have 13 schools try and test Skolelinux and compare it with other solutions -Edubuntu, Citrix, Tarantela, etc. So. Just a little patience, I'm not gone, I'm just busy maintaining package Baby v1.0 :-) Regards Konstantinos
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