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Re: the .org proposal or "join forces"



* Morten Werner Olsen <werner@skolelinux.no> [2005-12-27 22:58:55]:

> On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 12:30:28PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> 
> David C. Weichert's proposal:
> 
> > > * www.skolelinux.org (International Portal)
> > > * blogs.skolelinux.org (Blogs)
> > > * planet.skolelinux.org (Planet)
> > > * people.skolelinux.org (Pages about members)
> > > * wiki.skolelinux.org (Wiki)
> > > * doc.skolelinux.org (Documentation)
> > > * bugs.skolelinux.org (Bugtracking)
> >
> > What about schools.skolelinux.org ?
> 
> My old proposal:
> 
> >  o http://skolelinux.org/  -> forwarded to /wiki/ (?)
> >  o http://skolelinux.org/wiki/
> >  o http://skolelinux.org/blogs/
> >  o http://skolelinux.org/planet/
> >  o http://skolelinux.org/doc/
> >  o http://skolelinux.org/schools/
> >  o http://bugs.skolelinux.org/
> >  o http://people.skolelinux.org/ or http://folk.skolelinux.org/
> 
> > > So who feels responsible for the organisation of the .org-proposal
> > > and who has the control about that?
> > 
> > I still have a hard time understanding the difference between
> > skolelinux development and Debian development. I have no interest in
> > building up a parallel to Debian.
> > 
> > And no, I do not believe it is necessary that all development is done
> > by "authorized personel" (read: official Debian developers). Official
> > developers are needed for the final packaging steps of signing and
> > uploading (which means they personally take responsibility of the
> > quality of the package, so in reality there's more to it than just the
> > simple acts).
> 
> This is a more detailed proposal from me where I try to figure out
> which parts of the Debian infrastructure we can/should use.
> 
>  o http://skolelinux.org/ - I would like to forward this front-page to a
>    wiki where a lot of our information is present and at least most of
>    it is linked up. Maybe to one or more SVN-dumps to
>    http://skolelinux.org/<svn-dump>/ where our documentation-tree from
>    d.skolelinux.no/documentation/ is a great example.
> 
>    Can we use Debian's webpages for this? I don't think so, because we
>    don't have enough DD's for commiting patches to the webpages,
>    right?

non-dds can do webstuff in debian. i dont see a problem there.

>  o http://skolelinux.org/wiki/ - our main site where the content is
>    like described above. The Germans have done a great job with their
>    wiki, so I believe we should be able to use the same technology for
>    our international site. But, if this should work out we must agree
>    that the master language is english. Does anyone have a problem
>    with that?
> 
>    And will the Germans move some of their content (which is of
>    interest to the international and technical visitors) from their
>    wiki at skolelinux.de/wiki/ to this wiki?

is that important?

>    Could we use http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu for this? Yes
>    probably. The only challenge I see is that if we for one reason
>    would like to do any changes deeper into the wiki, we don't have
>    permissions to that. I'm not sure if this will be a problem. Can
>    we have the opinion of you guys administrating the wiki on
>    http://skolelinux.de/wiki/ ?? Do we have other arguments for not
>    using wiki.debian.org?

what potential problems do you see coming? an own stylesheet for
a sub-part of the wiki? (is that possible?)

>  o http://blogs.skolelinus.org/ - I'm not a blogger nor a blog-admin
>    myself, so if anyone have any comments that would have been great.
>    I don't believe Debian have any blogging-infrastructure, so we'll
>    have to set up our own.
>
>  o http://planet.skolelinux.org/ - Can we use planet.debian.org? Is
>    there only DD's that are linked up there? And planet.debian.org's
>    target is probably Developers not users, teachers, and admins, or
>    am I wrong?
> 
>  o http://skolelinux.org/doc/ - I believe this can be a good place do
>    dump a directory from SVN with our Skolelinux-specific
>    documentation. That is the documentation that has to do with our
>    CD, architecture, the sysadmin-documentation and so on. I don't
>    believe Debian has any place where this fit in?
> 
>  o http://skolelinux.org/schools/ - The list of schools that we
>    already have today.
> 
>  o http://bugs.skolelinux.org/ - Can we use bugs.d.o? Yes, for a lot
>    of bugs we can and we should, but I don't think pointing teachers
>    to bugs.d.o's interfaces is a good idea. So if we want bugreports
>    from our primary users, I believe we should continue use the
>    bugzilla we have at bugs.skolelinux.no now. It has been put a lot
>    of effort in cleaning it up too.
> 
>  o http://people.skolelinux.org/ or http://folk.skolelinux.org/ -
>    homepages for all that have an skolelinux.org-account. As we not
>    are only Debian Developers, people.debian.org cannot be used.
> 
> Comments are more than welcome! :)

looks good to me.

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