Re: cdd-adm, sauce for custom debian distribution administrators
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On 20-06-2005 12:44, Geert Stappers wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 10:13:11AM +0200, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
>>I think we come closer to the core of the problem when looking at
>>the *packaging system* as the problem. In it's present form it is
>>not fit to deal with upgrading conffiles or config files, while
>>it should be.
>
>
> The *packaging system* is fine, at least leave it as it is
> and focus on the configuration files.
>
> Let `apt-get install foo` allow to leave an unuseable conffile,
> repair it with `cdd-adm install foo`.
I like that.
The packaging system is not fundamentally broken, but Debian currently
has only little support above the package layer: There is no *distro*
system. And that is how I read in your description: a front-end to a
distro-engine similarly to the "apt-get" front-end to the APT engine.
I don't see this as reinventing the wheel of cfengine. I see the
back-end of your described "cdd-adm" as a mixture of official control
mechanisms (mostly debconf today) and unofficial package-overriding
"tweaks" using cfengine, CFG, shell or whatever.
Currently packages allow only little automated control, so lots of
"tweaks" are needed. Off course ideally the packages officially in
Debian matures to support more automated control...
I see your idea as debian-edu-install reinvented, with a reinvention of
debian-edu-config as backend. Sounds similar to the ideas of Holger
Levsen and me about structuring tweaks more generically, so they can be
used equally well by debian-installer, FAI and other tools working not
only with single packages but also the gaps/overlaps between them.
- Jonas
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