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Bug#311188: debian-edu-config: Messes "programmatically" with conffiles of other packages



Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> On 31-05-2005 14:53, Steve Langasek wrote:
> 
>>>On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 08:00:24AM +0200, Finn-Arne Johansen wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>I agree that debian-edu is a special case, but don't see your point in
>>>>>>that being a good excuse for ignoring policy: Debian-edu-* packages are
>>>>>>expected only to be useful in the Skolelinux Debian-derived
>>>>>>distribution. It is a goal of debian-edu to be able to create Skolelinux
>>>>>>solely from officially released Debian packages but that goal is not yet
>>>>>>reached so a few more packages having to be added unofficially shouldn't
>>>>>>be a big deal.
>>>
>>>>>What other packages does Skolelinux depend on for sarge that are not in
>>>>>Debian?
>>>
>>>>ltsp
>>>>j2re1.4

Those are the only two that are not in Debian now.

>>>
>>>So, precisely one package not in Debian that is actually eligible for
>>>inclusion in Debian. :)
> 
> No. I believe what Finn-Arne mentions is well-known ones only, not a
> complete list - judging from his own words recently on the issue of what
> is actually based on Debian Sarge in the current snapshots aiming at
> becoming next official Skolelinux release:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/2005/05/msg00205.html

Ah your talking about the packages that actually are in Debian sarge,
but in a state were we cant use them, like the lessdisks-packages and
the likes. Yes, Some package maintainers are just to lazy to get their
work done.

> I suspect the count to be higher than the above two plus the one
> specifically discussed in the referenced debian-edu thread.

The apt source that is used besides "official debian sarge", is
 http://ftp.skolelinux.no/skolelinux sarge local

>From this, the folowing packages are included:
 Newer autopartkit than the one in rc3 (dont remember why)
  autopartkit_1.08_i386.udeb
 Newer debian-edu-install than the one in sarge, we have to have
 progress
  debian-edu-install_0.646+svn3411_all.deb
  debian-edu-profile-udeb_0.646+svn3411_all.udeb
  debian-edu-install-udeb_0.646+svn3411_all.udeb
 Newer debian-edu-config, for the same reason as d-e-install
  debian-edu-config_0.397+svn3410_all.deb
 Newer debian-edu, same reason as above
  education-laptop_0.803+svn3327_i386.deb
  education-desktop-kde_0.803+svn3327_i386.deb
  education-standalone_0.803+svn3327_i386.deb
  education-workstation_0.803+svn3327_i386.deb
  education-thin-client-server_0.803+svn3327_i386.deb
  education-common_0.803+svn3327_i386.deb
  education-networked_0.803+svn3327_i386.deb
  education-tasks_0.803+svn3327_i386.deb
  education-main-server_0.803+svn3327_i386.deb
 We need a working java runtime on the installation, and are allowed to
 include this version on the cd by Sun
  j2re1.4_1.4.2_05-0.skolelinux.2_i386.deb
 Some lessdisks-packages. We need to have this preseedable, which was
 made possible in 0.6.1 (I think). Sarge have 0.5.3?
  initrd-netboot-tools_0.6.2c_all.deb
  kernel-image-netbootable_0.6.2c_all.deb
  lessdisks-terminal_0.6.2c_all.deb
  lessdisks-common_0.6.2c_all.deb
  lessdisks-easydialog_0.6.2c_all.deb
  lessdisks_0.6.2c_all.deb
 LTSP is not included in debian, I guess the future will tell if they
 ever will be included
  ltsp-x-xserver-svga-3.3.6-i386_4.1-0_all.deb
  ltsp-x-xserver-s3-s3v-3.3.6-i386_4.1-0_all.deb
  ltsp-x-xserver-mach64-3.3.6-i386_4.1-0_all.deb
  ltsp-core-i386_4.1-1_all.deb
  ltsp-kernel-2.4.26-edu-i386_4.1-2_all.deb
  ltsp-localdev-i386_4.1-0_all.deb
  ltsp-modules-2.4.26-i386_4.1-2_all.deb
  ltsp-sound-i386_4.1-0_all.deb
  ltsp-x-core-i386_4.1-0_all.deb
  ltsp-x-xserver-mach32-3.3.6-i386_4.1-0_all.deb

The rest of the packages is fetched from debian local mirror on developer.

> Sure, most of the unofficial packages for Skolelinux is improvements
> expected to get included in a later Debian release, but just as Ubuntu
> isn't "official Debian" so is also not Skolelinux currently.

Yes - there is one source package whos binaries are included on the CD.
I guess we cant do anything with the current maintainer of those
packages, as he is clearly occupied with other things than keeping up
with upstream.

> So I dare repeat myself: Adding a few more packages unofficially (that
> breaks policy) shouldn't be a big deal for Skolelinux.

???

-- 
Finn-Arne Johansen
faj@bzz.no http://bzz.no/
Debian-edu sarge prerelease manager



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