Re: Technical threads on norwegian list (Was: Is Skolelinux safe?)
ons, 10.03.2004 kl. 20.34 skrev Jonas Smedegaard:
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> Markus Gamenius wrote:
> | tir, 09.03.2004 kl. 13.03 skrev Andreas Schuldei:
> |>Jonas, thank you for taking the efford of summarizing the thread
> |>from the norwegian list.
> |><sarcasm and annoyance>
> |>i read it partly but i did not get the
> |>impression that people really cared for input from other (english
> |>speaking) people and the competence level was not above average
> |>all the time, either.
> |>I wondered why the discussion was conducted on that list in the
> |>first place, and concluded it was more for entertainment and
> |>chit-chat because people would *of cause* not want to be rude by
> |>excluding anyone from the discussion by using "private" languages.
> |></sarcasm and annoyance>
> | Sometimes discussions like theis starts on the norwegian list because
> | the one who starts the discussion is no developer and/or do not know
> | about the developer list. Other times it is because they do not want to
> | write in english. So we are trying to force this kind of discussions
> | over to the right list ass we did this time. The problem is that we use
> | to much time before we do this. Working on it ;-)
> Skolelinux being an open forum, I find it valuable to know more details
> of your last sentence, "working on it" (especially if you are referring
> to Skolelinux officially).
It was an genneral comment. I think we are getting better at moving
tecknical topics to developer. But if this turns out to be an huge
problem, then we will have to do something about it, but so far........
> Personally I have found the following approach to be of best use (all
> items, in that order):
> ~ 1) Avoid responding to too technical stuff on user list
> ~ 2) Instead, post response on tecnical list
> ~ 3) Advertise on user list your posting on technical list
> ~ 4) Cc your technical posting to suspected non-developers
> ~ 5) In both postings offer norwegian translation upon personal request
> That way you...
> ~ * Respect those uneasy with norwegian
> ~ * Respect those uneasy with english (unless you are too lazy)
> ~ * Respect users uninterested in technical details
> ~ * Respect developers not (yet) aware of the technical list
> ~ * Help switch list using curiousity (not yelling or force)
> ~ * Help avoid threads becoming pseudo-techical
> ~ * Help avoid laziness keeping a bad thread alive
> In essense, you do much good and hurt only those being lazy and/or rude!
> I deliberately post this to (what I consider) the technical list, as I
> do not want to bother users with its "technical details" ;-) .
> In the above I refer to the norwegian email@example.com as
> "user list" and the english firstname.lastname@example.org as "technical
> list. I do not know if that interpretation is mine alone.
> I propose the purposes of the two different lists (whatever they are
> officially) to be more aggressively advertised, especially upon wrong usage.
> ~ - Jonas
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> * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt
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> ~ - Enden er nær: http://www.shibumi.org/eoti.htm
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