Ritesh Raj Sarraf <rrs@researchut.com> writes:
[snip]
>
> udisks2 and policykit-1 are examples of packages that are broken
> without systemd. There may be more but these are I can find right now.
all right I find Xfce4 power manager is broken and I guess it has to do
with upower but I'm not really sure (IIRC reading some bugs is where I
found about upower).
>
> kde-plasma-desktop => udisks2 => libpam-systemd => systemd
> kde-workspace-bin => polkit-kde-1 => policykit-1 => libpam-systemd =>
> systemd
>
> These are examples, based on my desktop environment. You may be able
> to substitute it with yours.
I currently use xmonad with lightdm and yes no automounting works! but I
didn't bother to look as I use pmount for this purpose. But from our
discussion yesterday I think pmount doesn't work with the encrypted
disks right?.
>
> udisks2 is used to detect block devices and polkit to determine policy
> for privileges.
I see I need to read more about udisks2.
>
> Users not using systemd have 2 options.
>
> 1) Use packages like prevent-systemd or systemd-must-die from the
> wookware archive. http://wookware.org/software/repo/
> This former will still make systemd installed. The latter denies
> systemd installation which also makes the above mentioned packages
> dropped.
Interesting! I guess these are by Wookey! I never knew about
this. Thanks for sharing. At the moment I've switched to systemd but I'm
happy to experiment with these.
Probably this is because I un subscribed from the debian-devel during
systemd chaos in Debian I'm subscribing back again.
>
> 2) Find (or write your own) equivalents of polkit and udisks2, which
> can fill in the gaps for those use cases.
Probably will be a big project if we choose to do it right?.
>
> I am not sure how the desktop users of kFreeBSD are working out these
> problems. Probably, on kFreeBSD, the depndency on
> udisks/libpam-systemd is non-existent.
I too don't have a clue! Probably asking in #debian-kbsd might help or
debian-bsd@l.d.o.
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