Bug#818506: tone down warnings about GUI-based upgrades
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On 2019-03-15 22:36:18, Paul Gevers wrote:
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> Hi Antoine,
>
> On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 13:26:36 -0400 =?utf-8?q?Antoine_Beaupr=C3=A9?=
> <anarcat@debian.org> wrote:
>> http://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#upgrade-preparations
>>
>> "The distribution upgrade should be done either locally from a
>> textmode virtual console (or a directly connected serial terminal), or
>> remotely via an ssh link."
>
> The source [1] used to say this:
> TODO: surely gdm/kdm are sane?
> (vorlon) haha, no, gdm is not; I had that thought, and tested a gdm
> restart on my live session ;)
>
> That note was from before 2008.
That is a long time ago.
>> While the first time I did a jessie upgrade, my X session exploded and
>> I was left with a half-upgraded system (recovered fine, however), now
>> I just upgraded a fairly regular laptop to the latest jessie release,
>> through a full gnome session, without any interruption or issues.
>>
>> So I think that wording could be changed to a recommendation. It will
>> make upgrading Debian more accessible to users less familiar with the
>> "textmode virtual consoles" (which is, I suspect, a surprisingly large
>> proportion). :)
>
> Is one experience enough to say this? Is the remark from 2008 still a
> thing? I don't know how to judge. I would expect that a lot has improved
> in this area over the last decade.
I also expect that as well.
I don't know what the treshold should be, but for me if X crashes during
upgrades, that's a bug that should be fixed in X or whatever crashes it,
not something that should just be mentioned in passing in the release
notes.
So I'm tempted to say we should just remove this and stop pretending
that's okay. If that's still a problem, we need to fix it, not just say
"oops we did it again" in the relnotes. ;)
A.
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