* Scott Talbert: " Re: Proper handling of Lintian warnings due to other
packages" (Wed, 31 Jan 2024 13:16:11 -0500 (EST)):
> On Wed, 31 Jan 2024, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>
> > Quoting Scott Talbert (2024-01-31 16:49:59)
> >> On Wed, 31 Jan 2024, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> >>
> >>> Unfortunately it is not likely that the package will be catch up soon,
> >>> because the Haskell team upgrade most Haskell libraries only as a whole.
> >>>
> >>> That issue is not tracked in debbugs, because those vocal in the Haskell
> >>> team actively discourages the use of debbugs:
> >>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-haskell/2024/01/msg00012.html
> >>
> >> Note: I don't discourage usage of debbugs. It's just that I'm unlikely to
> >> notice bugs immediately due to the way debbugs notifications work.
> >
> > The net effect of a) silence in response to filing bugreports, b)
> > responses when reporting issues to Haskell mailinglist, and even c) you
> > [dissing] my explicit attempts at steering conversation to the
> > bugtracker is discouragement of using the bugtracker.
> >
> > - Jonas
> >
> > [dissing]: Sorry, I cannot find any other way to describe what you
> > did when you replied to the list when I posted
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-haskell/2024/01/msg00003.html and wrote
> > "Meh" when I posted
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-haskell/2024/01/msg00010.html
>
> With respect to "silence in response to filing bug reports": Debian is a
> volunteer project. There is no service level agreement for bug response
> time, or expectation even that a bug will ever get responded to.
This is for sure correct while indeed you are raising expectations that a bug
handled via mailing lists will get more attention.
> My "meh" was in response to you insisting that the conversation be moved
> to the bug tracker. I was explicitly stating that I was okay with
> discussing bugs on the mailing list and NOT insisting that they be moved
> to the bug tracker. The bug tracker is not user friendly for some users,
> so I personally am fine with receiving reports through other means and
> will not insist everyone use the BTS.
I heard the same (missing user friendliness) about mailing lists, there will
always be someone to prefer one communication over the other. I think it is
more appropriate to face the fact what we have in Debian to track bugs, and
just now this is the BTS. The integration with release management (e.g. RFC
bugs preventing a package to migrate to testing etc.) is substantial, a feature
you don't have with mailing lists. BTW I don't see the significant difference
between answering a mail from a mailing list or answering a mail from the BTS.
If it is about information via mailing list: wouldn't X-Debbugs-Cc: be an
appropriate solution to forward bugs to the mailing list?
Best
Mathias
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