Re: Integration with systemd
Martin Steigerwald - 01.11.19, 09:25:07 CET:
> Adam D. Barratt - 01.11.19, 07:47:48 CET:
> > On Fri, 2019-11-01 at 00:54 +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2019-10-31 at 22:40 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > > > On Oct 31, Svante Signell <svante.signell@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > When elogind enters testing there would be many more people
> > > > > running
> > > > > Debian with sysvinit/elogind. elogind is needed for desktop
> > > > > usage
> > > > > when not using systemd as PID 1.
> > > >
> > > > elogind is already in testing: I will be delighted to see how
> > > > the
> > > > number of testing/unstable users running sysvinit will change
> > > > in
> > > > November.
> > >
> > > Marco, I think your information about elogind is not up-to-date:
> > > https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/elogind
> > >
> > > testing migrations:
> > > excuses:
> > > Migration status for elogind (239.3+20190131-1+debian1 to
> > >
> > > 241.3-1+debian1): Will attempt migration (Any information below is
> > > purely informational)
> >
> > No, Marco's statement was entirely correct, and proved so by your
> > own
> > quote above.
> >
> > That line says that elogind 239.3+20190131-1+debian1 is currently in
> > testing, and that an updated version is attempting to migrate. A
> > version of elogind has been in testing for 10 months now.
>
> But this is the version where it is still difficult to switch over. It
> usually involves uninstalling the desktop and installing it again.
> Also as to what I know it needs a package "that is not supposed to
> exist" from Debian experimental
>
> So asking for this version how many will adopt it, in my viewpoint, is
> kind of unfair. I migrated two desktop laptops and it was not exactly
> fun with at least the second one. With the first it worked a bit
> smoother.
>
> As long as it involves that hassle, likely only a few will migrate.
Aside from that the second laptop disappeared from Debian statistics
already. Cause it is a Devuan meanwhile.
Of course that raises the question on what relationship with a
downstream like Devuan to aim for. Make it easy for them to keep the
differences at a minimum or not? And also specifically people using Debian
asked about using elogind *with* Debian.
--
Martin
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