Hello, On Sat 13 Jul 2019 at 02:22PM -07, Russ Allbery wrote: > Matthias Klumpp <mak@debian.org> writes: > >> With two Debian stable releases defaulting to systemd now, I think a >> solid case could be made to at least relax the "must" requirement to a >> "should" in policy (but that should better go to the respective bug >> report). > > The Policy process is not equipped to deal with this because that process > requires fairly consensus, and I don't believe that's possible to reach on > this topic. > > I don't know what decision-making process the project should use here: a > big thread on debian-devel (wow, that sounds fun), a bunch of in-person > conversations at DebConf (probably way more productive but excludes some > folks), the TC (tried and didn't work very well), a GR, some new mediated > consensus process, or what. Or maybe some working group that goes all-in > on creating a "good enough" automated translation from unit files to > sysvinit scripts and we support sysvinit that way and thereby dodge the > problem. > > But, and I'm putting my Policy Editor delegate hat on to say this, I > believe the Policy process is the wrong tool to use here because it will > not converge. (That said, Sean, as the other Policy Editor delegate, > should feel free to disagree if he thinks I'm wrong.) Just to note that I'm in agreement with Russ on this. While things may well change in the future (either the project's opinion on init or the way Policy works), Policy is not the way to do this for the time being. -- Sean Whitton
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