On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 04:00:54PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 10:20:27AM +0000, Dr. Bas Wijnen wrote: > > Let me put it differently then: for me, one of the major benefits of Debian > > over (most of) our derivatives is that I can set the system up in a way that > > allows me to live in a free software bubble. > So you don't update the non-free software in your CPU? I suppose so. Are you saying that a Debian system where only main is enabled is unsafe? If that is correct, it is a huge problem that that is the default setup we ship, don't you think? > > No free implementation: That's what this discussion is all about. For all the > > real examples that have been mentioned in this thread (amazon s3, icq), someone > > has noted that there actually is a free implementation of the server software. > Did anyone realy mention a free implementation of the ICQ server? Yes, I believe so. I don't care enough to look it up, as it isn't all that relevant to the discussion. > > Which as far as I understand means everybody agrees (I know I do) that that is > > enough to allow the package in main. > No, we happily had s3cmd in main even before someone found a free server > implementation. I did not contradict that. My statement is that if there is a free implementation, it is certainly good enough. The situation without a free server is obviously not as clear. Thanks, Bas
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