On 04/05/2014 14:24, Solal wrote: > [GR2004-2] have nothing to do with it. > My proprosition is just warn about proprietary software dangers, but > users would still install non-free software from repositories, get help > from developers, etc. But they are warned. > > Le 04/05/2014 14:20, Jean-Christophe Dubacq a écrit : >> On 04/05/2014 13:59, Solal wrote: >>> I think we shouldn't support proprietary software creaters, and we >>> should warn proprietary software users about proprietary software >>> unethicality (this does not mean that we will not help users proprietary >>> software but just that we warn of dangers. howewer, we will not help >>> proprietary software creaters). >>> >>> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] >>> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] >>> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] >> >> This is your idea. However, as shown by [GR2004-2], this is not the >> opinion of the project. >> >> [GR2004-2]: http://www.debian.org/vote/2004/vote_002 >> Please do not top-post if possible. I'd rather not annoy our users more than the current warning about enabling non-free at install time. However, this warning may be rewritten if the project feels it is not informative enough. However, your proposition also has the sentence "we shouldn't support proprietary software creaters". This is subject to many interpretations. The first interpretation that comes to my mind is in contradiction with point 5 of the Debian social contract (for example in "Thus, although non-free works are not a part of Debian, we support their use and provide infrastructure for non-free packages"). As for other interpretations, the project generally does not distinguish between uses of the software, be it for creating free software, curing cancer, being evil, or worse: creating non-free software. Not supporting proprietary software creaters would probably, in some of these interpretations, require considering not allowing Debian to be used for non-free software, which would bar us from using almost all currently DFSG-free software. Is that what you meant by "we shouldn't support proprietary software creaters"? Because providing them our wonderful distribution is supporting them. Sincerely, -- Jean-Christophe Dubacq
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