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Re: Web ID as passwordless authentication for debian web services [was: Re: Developer repositories for Debian]



Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net> writes:

> On 05/14/2013 10:03 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>
>> I have also thought WebID would be a perfect match for things like this.
> [...]
>> Daniel has raised concerns about WebID: 
>> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/freedombox-discuss/2011-March/001030.html
>> 
>> Quite frustrating, because I trust Daniels reasonings on crypto matters 
>> far better than my own, yet feel strongly that WebID is the right way to 
>> go for loosely coupled trust chains like this.
>> 
>> I think the way forward is for someone understanding WebID deeply to 
>> explain it to Daniel and others working on Monkeysphere, to get it 
>> integrated there.
>> 
>> As I understand it, technically the paperkey tool can be used to to 
>> flesh out the core crypto material from a GPG (sub!)key and wrapping 
>> that into an SSL key should be the way to go.  But that alone is not 
>> enough: We also need trust in WebID from those in Debian deeply 
>> understanding crypto.
>> 
>> Cc'ing Daniel, hoping he has time to shed some renewed light on this.
>
> Web ID as a key verification mechanism has problems with centralized
> authority.  Passwords have their own (distinct) set of serious problems,
> as far as i can tell.
>
> However, if we use Web ID as a key discovery mechanism and use other
> (non-centralized, non-third-party) mechanisms to validate the keys found
> therein, that seems like one decent way forward.

Do you have any thoughts on how that compares with using
BrowserID/Persona?  I'd got the impression that BrowserID has been put
together learning from mistakes of OpenID & WebID, but perhaps I'm just
swallowing their marketing.

Cheers, Phil.
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