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Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism that manages the services, startup and shutdown of a host




Le 31 août 2012 10:06, "Josselin Mouette" <joss@debian.org> a écrit :
>
> Le vendredi 31 août 2012 à 04:18 +0300, Serge a écrit :
> > 2012/8/10 Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > > Because being able to choose between alternatives for core features such
> > > as the init system only brings more bugs and no added value.
> >
> > Sorry, I don't understand this point.
> >
> > If it's about just adding more bugs without bringing anything good
> > with it — sure, it's a bad idea.
>
> It is exactly what init system multiplication is about.
>
> > But as long as:
> > 1. It breaks nothing for existing installations (i.e. does not
> > change defaults,
>
> That is already far-stretched.
>
> > does not break existing custom scripts,
>
> This is even more far-stretched.
>
> > even
> > is not installed by default)
> > 2. It has something, that is not provided by other packages,
> > meaning, it makes someone happy. (!)
>
> Kitten pictures make me happy. Can we ship them too?

I will fill an itp. Can i add you  as m'y sponsor?
> > 3. There's someone willing to maintain it and fix the bugs.
>
> That means there is someone who will pester other maintainers to “fix”
> their init scripts so that they work with another half-baked init
> implementation.
>
> > PS: IMHO, saying things like "Linux is not about choice" and
> > "Debian is not about being universal" just scares maintainers
> > and users away from debian, and brings nothing good instead.
>
> If you’re scared by hearing that Linux is not about choice, let me say
> it again: Linux is not about choice. Not about choice. Choice is not
> inherently good. Linux is not about choice. Booh.
>
> As for Debian not being universal, this is certainly not my saying. But
> toy ports and toy init systems are part of what makes Debian less
> universal: being the universal OS doesn’t mean accepting every piece of
> shit, it means being able to answer every user need. Adding more choice
> always brings more bugs, but it does not, by far, always answer to more
> user needs.
>
> One good init system can answer all our needs, while four bad ones will
> certainly not.
>
> --
>  .''`.      Josselin Mouette
> : :' :
> `. `'
>   `-
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