Hi, GTK+ 1.2 has been deprecated upstream for 6 years. There is no security support for it, and no new applications using it have been out for quite a long time as well. I think it is more than time to remove it from the archive. Of course, this can only be done after we have dealt with the reverse dependencies. For them, there are not many solutions: * Look for alternatives using GTK+ 2.x. For most utilities and games, they already exist, whether already in the archive or somewhere else ready to be packaged. * Port to GTK+ 2.x. Depending on the application, this can be a trivial or very large task, and it requires a bit of motivation. * Simply drop the application from the archive. Here is a first list of packages that could either be removed right now because they seem to have replacements, or updated with little work. If there are no objections, I think we should ask for removal of all of those which don’t have a GTK+ 2 version. Guenter Geiger (Debian/GNU) <geiger@debian.org> shaketracker => we have other sequencers in the archive swami => upstream is currently porting it to GTK+ 2 Marc Dequènes (Duck) <Duck@DuckCorp.org> worlded => no upstream news for 4 years, we have better such games in the archive Jari Aalto <jari.aalto@cante.net> gcrontab => gnome-schedule Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> gtimer => hamster-applet, gnotime Ben Armstrong <synrg@sanctuary.nslug.ns.ca> snowflake => just a toy Ernesto Nadir Crespo Avila <ecrespo@debianvenezuela.org> xwhois => gnome-nettool Bradley Bell <btb@debian.org> gtkmm Jon Bernard <jbernard@debian.org> e16menuedit => we don’t ship E16 anymore Adrian Bridgett <bridgett@debian.org> gato => gnome-schedule Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <he@debian.org> wmclockmon => Yet Another WindowMaker Applet Mark Brown <broonie@debian.org> powertweak => Is that still relevant with modern power management policies? Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org> xarchon => Unmaintained upstream for 5 years, we’re not lacking games xpuyopuyo => flobopuyo, cuyo… Ross Burton <ross@burtonini.com> gtk-engines-lighthouseblue Patryk Cisek <patryk@prezu.one.pl> kadu => pidgin Debian Electronics Team <pkg-electronics-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org> gwave => gtkwave Debian Games Team <pkg-games-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org> lmemory => gcompris ? Tim Dijkstra <tim@famdijkstra.org> digitaldj => prokyon3 Randall Donald <rdonald@debian.org> gradio => gnomeradio Peter Eisentraut <petere@debian.org> pinentry => just need to disable the GTK+ 1.2 build Rene Engelhard <rene@debian.org> aria => gwget manedit => gmanedit Devid Filoni <d.filoni@techemail.com> dillo => there is a new upstream based on FLTK Bdale Garbee <bdale@gag.com> predict (U) Debian QA Group <packages@qa.debian.org> gnome-libs gtkfontsel gtkglarea imlib netdude sqlrelay stegdetect => QA-maintained packages should be removed as soon as they don’t have remaining rdeps Steinar H. Gunderson <sesse@debian.org> amoeba => just a toy, and we have rss-glx Wartan Hachaturow <wart@debian.org> grpn => calcoo John Hasler <john@dhh.gt.org> gpppon => gnome-ppp Uwe Hermann <uwe@debian.org> cccd => we have so many CD players that I won’t list them powershell => gnome-terminal, xfterm… Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta <agi@inittab.org> gqcam => cheese… Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> xbindkeys-config => I think we have quite a number of key->event managers already Steffen Joeris <white@debian.org> xoscope => extace Matthew Johnson <mjj29@debian.org> gbib => pybliographer ? Daniel Kobras <kobras@debian.org> libdv => we just need to stop building libdv-bin Alexander Kotelnikov <sacha@debian.org> fvwm (U) Antonin Kral <A.Kral@sh.cvut.cz> gtkguitune => lingot Noèl Köthe <noel@debian.org> mbrowse => tkmib + at least 2 online services doing the same Wesley J. Landaker <wjl@icecavern.net> gwave (U) Chris Lawrence <lawrencc@debian.org> gnome-lokkit => so many iptables frontends… Ron Lee <ron@debian.org> wxwindows2.4 => no remaining rdeps Jacob Luna Lundberg <jacob@gnifty.net> xscorch => atanks, scorched3d Eduardo Marcel Macan <macan@debian.org> vertex => blender ? Camm Maguire <camm@enhanced.com> codebreaker => gnome-mastermind OHURA Makoto <ohura@debian.org> tex-guy => xgdvi can be replaced by evince and many others xemacs21 => maybe we need to wait for emacs23 Paul Mangan <claws@thewildbeast.co.uk> sylpheed-gtk1 (U) Bart Martens <bartm@debian.org> qiv => yay, an image viewer GOTO Masanori <gotom@debian.org> lm-batmon => yay, a battery monitor Hamish Moffatt <hamish@debian.org> guile-gtk-1.2 gwave (U) Ricardo Mones <mones@debian.org> sylpheed-gtk1 => sylpheed-claws Stephen M Moraco <stephen@debian.org> karpski => wireshark Ryan Murray <rmurray@debian.org> gdk-pixbuf Francesco Namuri <francesco@namuri.it> lopster => did you know that Napster was shut down? Kari Pahula <kaol@debian.org> crossfire-client => just need to disable the GTK+ 1.2 build Drew Parsons <dparsons@debian.org> zangband => yay, a rogue game Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a <jfs@computer.org> cheops => I don’t think we have a similar tool, but all the functionality should be covered by combining 2 or 3 of them. i2e => We have more generic and modern dictionary tools Víctor Pérez Pereira <vperez@debianvenezuela.org> gfslicer => Several tools can build multi-file archives, which boils down to the same functionality in a more portable way Frederic Peters <fpeters@debian.org> gaby => I think we have a number of such tools already geg => lybniz, kmplot Florian Ragwitz <rafl@debian.org> wmmaiload => Yay, a WindowMaker dockapp Josip Rodin <joy-packages@debian.org> gbase => gcalctool and many others gentoo => yay, a file manager gman => yelp and many others Miriam Ruiz <little_miry@yahoo.es> lmemory (U) Darren Salt <linux@youmustbejoking.demon.co.uk> libjsw Stefan Schimanski <schimmi@debian.org> qtpixmap Alexander Schmehl <tolimar@debian.org> xdialog => zenity Alain Schroeder <alain@debian.org> gsnes9x => visualboyadvance ? Gustavo Noronha Silva <kov@debian.org> sylpheed-gtk1 (U) Adeodato Simó <dato@net.com.org.es> gbuffy => Yay, a mail notification tool Roberto Suarez Soto <turgon@debian.org> wallp => drapes Wolfgang Sourdeau <was@debian.org> ghfaxviewer => Yay, a picture viewer with a restricted scope Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org> fvwm => Why does it depend on both GTK+ 1.2 and 2.x ? Joop Stakenborg <pa3aba@debian.org> baycomepp (U) baycomusb (U) hf (U) Roland Stigge <stigge@antcom.de> gcvs => At least the toolkit is assorted to the VCS. Many IDEs or editors still have a CVS plugin anyway. gps => gnome-system-monitor and many others Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> libgtkimreg paul => Yay, an imaging library and an image viewer Marcela Tiznado <mlt@debian.org> gtkgo => quarry Guido Trotter <ultrotter@debian.org> directory-administrator => gq + several web-based such frontends Junichi Uekawa <dancer@debian.org> soundtracker => there are a few other trackers, especially ardour, although none of them uses the MOD/XM format Michael Vogt <mvo@debian.org> corewars => maybe we should package pmars instead? Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> putty => hotwire, a plain terminal… Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> mountapp => yay, a dockapp Rafal Zawadzki <bluszcz@jabberpl.org> wmshutdown => yay, a dockapp For the following packages, I didn’t find any trivial solution, so this needs further investigation. A. Maitland Bottoms <bottoms@debian.org> predict Nicolas Boullis <nboullis@debian.org> mah-jong Debian Hamradio Maintainers <debian-hams@lists.debian.org> baycomepp baycomusb hf Manuel Garcia <mannyto@gmail.com> crank Yu Guanghui <ygh@debian.org> sulu Uwe Hermann <uwe@debian.org> pixelize Steffen Joeris <steffen.joeris@skolelinux.de> gpsim-led gpsim-logic Daniel Kobras <kobras@debian.org> dbmix ygraph Carlos Laviola <claviola@debian.org> lazarus Ola Lundqvist <opal@debian.org> ledcontrol xt Camm Maguire <camm@enhanced.com> perspic Christoph Martin <christoph.martin@uni-mainz.de> gtalk Hamish Moffatt <hamish@debian.org> baycomepp (U) baycomusb (U) hf (U) Jose M. Moya <josem@die.upm.es> kmd Mazen Neifer <mazen@freepascal.org> lazarus (U) Patrick Ouellette <pouelle@debian.org> baycomepp (U) baycomusb (U) hf (U) Jaime Robles <jaime@debian.org> baycomepp (U) baycomusb (U) hf (U) Josip Rodin <joy-packages@debian.org> gtkpool Ryan Schultz <schultz.ryan@gmail.com> psemu-input-padjoy psemu-sound-peops psemu-video-x11 Paul Slootman <paul@debian.org> linpopup Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> python-visual Riccardo Stagni <unriccio@email.it> gcx Lucas Wall <lwall@debian.org> pilrc Torsten Werner <twerner@debian.org> lazarus (U) python-visual (U) Cheers, -- .''`. : :' : We are debian.org. Lower your prices, surrender your code. `. `' We will add your hardware and software distinctiveness to `- our own. Resistance is futile.
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