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Re: Sun Java available from non-free

On Sun, 2006-06-04 at 09:57 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:

> I would furthermore strongly encourage people to work *with* Sun towards
> improving the current license

There have been numerous issues with the current text pointed out here
already, I guess people are currently just waiting for the fixes from
Sun's legal. Some kind of more structured process would be nice, the DPL
could play a useful role there.

>  and developing sufficient confidence in
> the Debian and free software community to release Java under an entirely
> free license.

In my opinion, that's conflating two separate issues. 

Afaict, noone working on the DLJ (from Sun's or Debian's side) knew
anything about Sun's recently voiced intention to 'release Java under an
entirely free license'. 

That intention has been publicized after Sun announced the
Debian/Canonical deal, rather then as part of it. I don't recall either
Schwartz or Green giving an impression at JavaOne that Sun's decision
was or would be influenced by Debian carrying DLJ-licensed software.
Suggesting that two issues are interrelated seems unwarranted to me,
given the currently publicly available knowledge.

Sun already *is* part of the free software community, and has been for
years. Debian ships lots of free software with Sun's copyright on it. I
would be very surprised if a multi-billion dollar corporation with 35k+
employees, largely working on free software, needed particular
handholding from someone else to figure out what free software is, given
how many bright people work over there on free software already. ;)

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