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Re: Sun Java available from non-free

On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 01:08:17AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le dimanche 21 mai 2006 à 15:55 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit :
> > If you have a reason to believe that the ftpmasters have *misjudged* the
> > liability involved,

> This is the whole point of the discussion.

Not that I can see.  Your preceding post focused on the *who* and the *how*
of the decision, *not* on the what.

> Indeed, they will bear the *primary* liability. However if legal action
> is taken against them or our mirror operators because of their decision,
> the whole distribution process might suffer, affecting all developers
> and users.

Er, of course we all might be affected by it, but the ftpmasters would be
affected *way* more by getting sued than *we* would be affected by their
getting sued, so I think it's ridiculously presumptuous to criticize the
ftpmasters for lack of transparency here instead of trying to support them
to make good decisions.

> By reading your email, I feel you are acknowledging the fact the
> ftp-masters cabal (I can't name it otherwise after seeing their behavior
> IRL) is treating other developers as second-class contributors who
> should just do as they say.

No, I'm acknowledging that the ftpmasters have no obligation to do as *you*
say.  The ftp-masters aren't the ones trying to tell other people what to do
in this thread.

Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
vorlon@debian.org                                   http://www.debian.org/

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