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Re: More polls and social pressure

On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 09:43:23AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> [ Reply-to debian-project ]

reply-to, ignored since I feel this is important enough that both lists
should see this reponse.

> Hi everybody,
> In the light of recent events, those polls could be used to give a physical
> reality to the social peer pressure that should exist on our mailing lists
> (and maybe avoid going straight to extreme solutions):


> The result of the polls could eventually be used by the listmasters to
> take action if needed. 

There is a better way.

As some of you may be aware, the listmasters use feedback to gauge the
desirability / utility of new lists.  Likewise while the listmasters
monitor the general 'health' of the lists (ebb/flow, posting frequency,
etc.), that doesn't necessarily mean they have read everything (although
Pascal certainly tries).

So, if you feel a particular post was inappropriate / out-of-line bring
it to the attention of listmaster@lists.debian.org

> This is a civilized way to define what *must change* and what is ok. 

It is certainly *a* way but I'd hesitate to call it civilised; public
non-secret ballots are frequently used in mafia-like organisations.  
And also within governments too.

> The current limitation is that we probably ought to open the votes to a
> larger group than the DD but we might start with DD only and check out the
> results.

If people who have a problem, let listmaster@lists.debian.org know, they 
don't even need to be in the new-maintainer queue to be heard.  Even
your pet dog can complain![1]


[1]: On the Internet, no one knows that you're a dog

 `When any government, or any church for that matter, undertakes to say to
  its subjects, "This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are
  forbidden to know," the end result is tyranny and oppression no matter how
  holy the motives' -- Robert A Heinlein, "If this goes on --"

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