Re: Need for launchpad
On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 10:34:57AM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 06:52:10PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > It'd probably be great if Ubuntu would set up (or, if it already exists,
> > advertise) some way to have a canonical way (no pun intended) to contact
> > the Ubuntu maintainer (or, if no such person exists, the responsible
> > Ubuntu team) for a given package. Something like the
> > @packages.debian.org alias would be wonderful, but something else would
> > work, too.
> Unfortunately, something like @packages.debian.org doesn't map very well to
> how our development team is organized. Of course,
> firstname.lastname@example.org will reach the right people, but it also has
> too much traffic to be very reliable for this sort of thing.
> As I've said before, I'm happy to act as a point of contact personally, and
> pass on any communications from Debian developers to the appropriate team or
> individual within Ubuntu, wherever there is a doubt about who to contact.
That's always an extra step, and while I'm sure you'll do your best to
do this as good as possible, there's always going to be the problem that
it won't work when you're too busy with other things.
I don't know the details of how Ubuntu works, but I understand that
while it's basically a free-for-all regarding package uploads, there's
still some informal feeling that most packages have a one or few people
who're "responsible" for them, and do most (if not all) of their
If an @packages.debian.org doesn't really fit, do you think something
like the "Latest News" section on packages.qa.debian.org (aka the PTS)
would work? That way, a Debian Developer could easily see which Ubuntu
developer or MOTU does the most work on one's packages (or did the last
upload), in case it would be necessary. And for the case that most of
such uploads are either automated or done by a different person every
time, you could add a 'generic' contact address to that page. This would
make it a *lot* easier for me to find out who to talk to when I think my
package has been abused, or when something important for my package,
something that could use some coordination, is coming up.
As it is, to me, Ubuntu is just a group of people, some of which might
have names. I find it hard to work with such a thing; while I would
love to work more closely with Ubuntu, the lack of personality is what's
holding me back---and I'm afraid that telling me "contact me, I'll
forward it" isn't going to change that.
 yes, I'm exaggerating here, but I'm just trying to convey an
emotion; I hope you understand what I mean.
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