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Re: Canonical's business model



On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:17:55 -0200, Gustavo Franco
<gustavorfranco@gmail.com> said:  

> I disagree with a pile of patches and as i said it would be better a
> revision control system and good log (and debian/changelog) entries.

        How is a revision control system (BTW, all of my packages are
 in a public repo on arch.debian.org) help much in the way of
 providing feedback? The best way to work with upstreams is to provide
 minimal patches that implement a feature, or fix a bug, and
 preferably, each patch addressing one or few related issues.

        Calling for revision control systems seems like a red
 herring -- and is impractical, anyway, since getting upstream to all
 use the same version control system is not going to work.

> We can use PTS (and we're doing already in a way) to be warned about
> new patches. I don't think Canonical will put money on judging by
> DDs, in the end it's up to us include or not the change.

        Umm, every single patch in a downstream repo, all jumbled up
 with other changes, is not much use. I would never subject my
 upstreams to it -- I submit specific, minimal patches, one feature at
 a time, to upstream, since that makes it more likely to be
 integrated. 

> If they want to promote that they give us something back their
> reponsability is keep things more organized (for DDs and NMs) and
> publish somewhere what exactly they're giving back (for the
> community), IMHO. Does it mean that they're not contributing? No,
> they're believe in me. We just need to do our homework, and inform
> them that we can do the things in a better way.

        That is just talk. Actually doing something that establishes
 the feed back channel would be laudable, mere talk isn't worth spit.

        manoj
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Manoj Srivastava   <srivasta@debian.org>  <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/>
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