Re: Alternate proposal for Declassification of debian-private archives
My biggest problem with all this is that it's gonna mean a lot of work -
for the 'declassifying team' and for people who want to be bothered
about commenting on the process is respect of particular email. Thats
time that I feel could be better spent.
I do understand the motives...
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 08:32:59AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> I have been thinking about the kinds of reasons for not
> wanting to have a post to -private published. I came up with two
> major (reasonable) scenarios:
> a) The post contained sensitive material.
> In this case, if a reasonable case has been made for the
> material being sensitive, and one that the declassification
> teams accepted, then the material should be redacted from the
> post, and every post it has been quoted in. If it is sensitive
> in one post, it is sensitive in another.
> b) I do not want to be associated with the post in question
> In other words, if this showed up in google it may hurt my
> future job prospects post ;-). In this case, the post can be
> published, just every identifying bit about the author needs
> be redacted from this post and the quotes.
> This latter action would, in my opinion, allow more of some
> informative, though heated, discussions to be available to posterity
> Also, we are, in effect, considering retroactively overturning
> that the copyright holders wishes would be heeded, even when the post
> in question is quoted in other emails.
> Here is a diff from AJ's proposal. I am now formally seeking
> seconds for this modified proposal, which has explicit guidelines for
> the most common case for not wantng the posts to be published.
> In accordance with principles of openness and transparency, Debian will
> seek to declassify and publish posts of historical or ongoing significance
> made to the Debian Private Mailing List.
> This process will be undertaken under the following constraints:
> * The Debian Project Leader will delegate one or more volunteers
> to form the "debian-private declassification team".
> * The team will automatically declassify and publish posts made to
> that list that are three or more years old, with the following
> - the author and other individuals quoted in messages being reviewed
> will be contacted, and allowed between four and eight weeks
> to comment;
> - posts that reveal financial information about individuals or
> organisations other than Debian, will have that information
> - - requests by the author of a post for that post not to be published
> - will be honoured;
> + - If the author makes a resonable case that some material is
> + sensitive, then that material is redacted from that post and any
> + other post where it has been quoted
> + - If the author indicates he does not wish to be associated with a
> + post, any identifying information is redacted from that post,
> + and any quotes in subsequent posts, but the rest of the material
> + is published.
> - posts of no historical or other relevance, such as vacation
> - announcements, or posts that have no content after personal
> + announcements, or posts that have no content after
> information is removed, will not be published, unless the author
> requests they be published;
> - comments by others who would be affected by the publication of
> the post will also be taken into account by the declassification
> - the list of posts to be declassified will be made available to
> developers two weeks before publication, so that the decisions
> of the team may be overruled by the developer body by General
> Resolution, if necessary -- in the event such a resolution is
> introduced (ie, proposed and sponsored), the declassification
> and publication of messages specified by the resolution will be
> deferred until the resolution has been voted on.
> Happiness adds and multiplies as we divide it with others.
> Manoj Srivastava <email@example.com> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/>
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