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Re: GPL and linking (was: Urgently need GPL compatible libsnmp5-dev replacement :-()



On 5/6/05, Michael K. Edwards <m.k.edwards@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/6/05, Raul Miller <moth.debian@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 5/6/05, Michael K. Edwards <m.k.edwards@gmail.com> wrote:
> [snip]
> > > Second sentence in Section 0:  The "Program", below, refers to any
> > > such program or work, and a "work based on the Program" means either
> > > the Program or any derivative work under copyright law: that is to
> > > say, a work containing the Program or a portion of it, either verbatim
> > > or with modifications and/or translated into another language.
> >
> > I believe you're objecting to the "that is to say" phrase, which restates what
> > "work based on the Program": means.
> 
> Attempts to, anyway.

I think this "attempts to" quip is meaningless.

> > > As I read it, the phrase after the colon is a paraphrase of the
> > > "ether/or" clause it follows, i. e., an attempt to restate it in
> > > layman's terms.
> >
> > Yes.  And that "either/or" clause says what "work based on the Program"
> > means.
> 
> Yep.  That phrase is, in its entirety: "either the Program or any
> derivative work under copyright law".  And that's the definition of
> "work based on the Program" for the duration of the GPL, as far as I'm
> concerned.

To recap:

W: "work based on the program"
D: "derivative work"
E: either/or phrase
C: phrase after the colon.

W means E
C paraphrases E

Thus, you have concluded, C attempts to paraphrase D

Should we keep going back and forth on this, trying to show why
you believe C attempts to paraphrase D?

Also, either: 

(1) Your other paragraphs are logically based on this concept
("C attempts to paraphrase D"), and therefore are based on
a false premise, or

(2) Your other paragraphs are not related to this paragraph by
theme or logic, and thus there's little point in continuing unless
they contain some worthwhile independent theme (personally,
I've not spotted one -- they just seem like a bunch of statements
with little cohesive logic).]

Or something else?

I don't know why it's important that all this be sent to debian-devel.  After
this post, I'm probably going to delete debian-devel from my followups
(and a great sigh of relief is heard throughout the land).

-- 
Raul



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