Re: The unofficial buildd effort and its shutdown - my POV
On 04 Sep 2004 23:03:41 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG <tb@becket.net>
wrote:
>Ingo Juergensmann <ij@2004.bluespice.org> writes:
>> True, there's no formal process for people like me, although I proposed some
>> ideas for something like that some time ago, but that was put down as any
>> other idea, most likely by the same people that are now yelling loudly about
>> trust. It was put down for reasons like "That's nonsense! That can't be
>> done. Shut up, moron! If you want, become a DD!"
>
>So... I'm a little confused. What do you mean "there's no formal
>process for people like me"? The NM process certainly allows for
>things other than package maintenance. What about you is not covered
>by the existing process?
For example, it is generally expected to have at least one package in
the archive before even applying.
>> Yes, and right now it seems as if the unofficials buildds are being not
>> accepted. I don't want to have stress because I'm not trusted as some people
>> thing, so I stopped the buildds (actually they had network problems and were
>> offline at that time and I just didn't start the daemon again ;)
>
>It sounds like you stopped the buildd's because you chose to, not
>because you were told to. You seemed to me to take a few people's
>discussion as determinative. I have no particular opinion about the
>substance of the matter, but your action seemed premature to me.
I find the action proper as an early warning where we might land if we
continue arguing in that direction. Considering that these buildds
were always unwanted (look at the "behavior" of the wannabuild admin)
by the people in power, I would probably have done exactly the same
thing.
>> Even more unfortunately those people who do their work and appreciate mine
>> are quite quiet. I know many people (DDs as well non-DDs) who agree with my
>> POV, but don't say this in the public. This gives the impression that I'm
>> just a single person with obscure opinions, a troublemaker.
>
>Where in any of this were you told that being a DD or not made your
>opinions more or less valuable? I don't recall anything of the kind.
Well, go read again. It's there, in many cases not even between the
lines, but _in_ the lines. Explicitly said.
Greetings
Marc
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