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Re: Bug#241689: I'm going to NMU this



* Manoj Srivastava:

> On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 18:25:24 +0200, Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> said: 
>
>> Looks like what I was fearing has already happened. We have lost
>> about a third of our buildd network, thus moving sarge behind even
>> more.
>
>
> 	Since when have we placed arbitary deadlines above quality?

I don't think our concerns are related to quality, but about how much
someone is allowed to do for Debian without being a club member.  From
a formal point of view, it's certainly not acceptable that someone
who's been denied membership tries to bypass these safeguards.

It's quite unfortunate that this problem shows up at this particular
time, though.

>  If a third of our build network was not trusted by the delegates in
>  charge of Debian's buildds, the solution is to get more trusted
>  buildd machines, not to shove packegs in wily nilly.

Trust is only loosely related to quality.

> 	Bull-fucking-shit. Shoving packages from dubious build
>  machines is just as well not caring for the users. In this day and
>  age people not even giving a passing nod to security issues is a
>  bloody shame too.

Our users are willing to sacrifice some security so that they can run
Debian.  Switching off buildds won't resolve Debian's inherent
security problems.  It won't make Debian acceptable to those who so
far had to refrain from using it, either.



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