I hate unsubstantiated flames. Please do research next time before posting another of your flames. I'm only taking the time to rebut two of your points, because I have work to do. Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Evidence please. I see lots of crap. joeyh@newraff:/org/ftp.debian.org/queue/reject>(for package in $(find -name \*.reason | sed -e 's!./!!' -e 's/_.*//') ; do if ! madison $package >|/dev/null; then echo not in archive: $package; fi; done) | sort | uniq not in archive: aolserver4-nsencrypt not in archive: apl not in archive: attal-themes not in archive: bsdiff not in archive: cash not in archive: cherokee not in archive: ddetect not in archive: debhelper-zope not in archive: debian-builder not in archive: dict-cz-en not in archive: erlang-slang not in archive: evolution-webcal not in archive: gabber2 not in archive: gjiten not in archive: gnustep-guile not in archive: gutenbrowser not in archive: httperf not in archive: httping not in archive: jigdo-bin not in archive: jikesrvm not in archive: jikesrvm-classpath not in archive: kernel-image-2.2.25-alpha not in archive: kernel-image-2.2.25-i386 not in archive: kernel-image-2.4.19-alpha not in archive: kernel-image-2.4.19-arm not in archive: kernel-image-2.4.19-s390 not in archive: kernel-image-2.4.20-2-alpha not in archive: kernel-image-2.4.20-2-i386 not in archive: kernel-image-2.4.20-i386bf not in archive: kernel-image-2.6.0-test6-i386 not in archive: kernel-kbuild-2.6-1 not in archive: kernel-patch-2.4-netwinder not in archive: kernel-patch-2.4-rmk not in archive: kernel-patch-2.4.19-riscstation not in archive: kernel-patch-2.4.19-s390 not in archive: kernel-patch-2.4.19-shark not in archive: kernel-patch-2.4.22-mips not in archive: kernel-patch-2.4.24-hppa not in archive: kernel-patch-2.4.24-powerpc not in archive: kernel-patch-2.6-cobalt not in archive: kernel-patch-iplimit not in archive: kernel-patch-pkttype not in archive: kernel-source-2.4.20 not in archive: lfm not in archive: lgeneral-data not in archive: libapache2-mod-ssl-user not in archive: libfork-perl not in archive: libipc-run3-perl not in archive: libperl6-form-perl not in archive: linux-2.4 not in archive: linux-defaults not in archive: linux-kernel-udeb not in archive: metacity-setup not in archive: micq not in archive: mixxx not in archive: mozilla-firefox-locale-nb not in archive: myspell2 not in archive: ncompress not in archive: netclasses not in archive: orinoco-cvs-module-src not in archive: osip not in archive: pcmcia-modules-2.4.20-bf2.4 not in archive: pcmcia-modules-2.4.24-1-386 not in archive: pcmcia-modules-2.4.24-1-586tsc not in archive: pcmcia-modules-2.4.24-1-686 not in archive: pcmcia-modules-2.4.24-1-686-smp not in archive: pcmcia-modules-2.4.24-1-k6 not in archive: pcmcia-modules-2.4.24-1-k7 not in archive: pcmcia-modules-2.4.24-1-k7-smp not in archive: pcmcia-modules-2.4.25-1-386 not in archive: pcmcia-modules-2.4.25-1-586tsc not in archive: pcmcia-modules-2.4.25-1-686 not in archive: pcmcia-modules-2.4.25-1-686-smp not in archive: pcmcia-modules-2.4.25-1-k6 not in archive: pcmcia-modules-2.4.25-1-k7 not in archive: pcmcia-modules-2.4.25-1-k7-smp not in archive: pgmanage not in archive: pxes not in archive: python-zodb not in archive: qmail-qmqp-sv not in archive: sablevm-test-suite not in archive: silc-toolkit not in archive: sl-modem-modules not in archive: slat not in archive: somaplayer not in archive: streamstudio not in archive: swiss-ephemeris not in archive: synce-multisync-plugin not in archive: systemimager-ssh not in archive: t1lib5 not in archive: teepeedee not in archive: tei-p4 not in archive: tei-p4-doc not in archive: tei-xlite not in archive: tei-xsl-fo not in archive: tei-xsl-html not in archive: tomcat-connectors not in archive: tunnelv not in archive: twinspot-logcheck not in archive: vgui not in archive: vtun not in archive: w4rl0rdz not in archive: webftp not in archive: xfce4-systemload-plugin not in archive: xft2 not in archive: xirssi not in archive: xspringies not in archive: xvidcore not in archive: yapps2 not in archive: zmailer-ssl not in archive: zope-dev not in archive: zope-groupuserfolder not in archive: zope-zstylesheet joeyh@newraff:/org/ftp.debian.org/queue/reject>grep non-free *.reason dict-cz-en_20031005-1_i386.reason: have to be moved to non-free. Something to bear in mind... jasper_1.700.5-1_i386.reason:The license on this package appears to be non-free and according to keyanalyze_0.0.200204-1_i386.reason:a package in main cannot recommend a package in non-free (graphviz). pgmanage_1.0.1-1_i386.reason:I believe this clauses makes the license too non-free, even for pgmanage_1.0.1-1_i386.reason:non-free since AFAICS mirrors are as much recpients as users and we tei-xsl-html_3.0-1_i386.reason:Likewise, Depends on rejected, probably non-free packages. If they vgui_2.07-1_i386.reason:non-free isn't technically part of Debian. It'd be better if he joeyh@newraff:/org/ftp.debian.org/queue/reject>grep license *.reason aqmoney_0.6.2-1_i386.reason:Unfortunately this software is licensed under the GPL but links with aqmoney_0.6.2-1_i386.reason:OpenSSL. This doesn't work due to license conflicts (seei bacula_1.32f-4-1_i386.reason:Unfortunately this software is licensed under the GPL but links with bacula_1.32f-4-1_i386.reason:OpenSSL. This doesn't work due to license conflicts (see bsdiff_4.1-1_i386.reason:Sorry to be a pain, but I'm concerned about the license. It seems to bsdiff_4.1-1_i386.reason:taken as "either or" clauses, but unfortunately the license doesn't cherokee_0.4.5.99+20031218-1_i386.reason:What's the license? classpath_0.08-1_i386.reason:common licenses directory and it is a complete mess (lacking wordwrap etc). dict-cz-en_20031005-1_i386.reason:| This project is licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License dict-cz-en_20031005-1_i386.reason:| Up to date text of this license is located at dict-cz-en_20031005-1_i386.reason:| http://www.gnu.org/licenses/fdl.txt dict-cz-en_20031005-1_i386.reason:a) you need to include the full license in the copyright file unless dict-cz-en_20031005-1_i386.reason: you're referring to one of the common licenses in base-files. A diveintopython_4.4-1_i386.reason:| "Dive Into Python" is licensed under the GNU Free Documentation diveintopython_4.4-1_i386.reason:| the Python license, which can be found in /usr/share/doc/python/copyright. diveintopython_4.4-1_i386.reason:Sorry to be license pedants, but there's two problems here: diveintopython_4.4-1_i386.reason: the Addendum of the GFDL about how to use the license. diveintopython_4.4-1_i386.reason:(2) You can't refer to external files for licenses except for the diveintopython_4.4-1_i386.reason: common licenses found in base-files. You'll need to include the diveintopython_4.4-1_i386.reason: full python license in your copyright file, I'm afraid. docbook-slides-demo_3.1.0-1_i386.reason:You seem to be missing the actual license. gabber2_1.9.4-2_i386.reason:Unfortunately this software is licensed under the GPL but links with gabber2_1.9.4-2_i386.reason:OpenSSL. This doesn't work due to license conflicts (seei gnustep-gd_0.0.20040228-1_i386.reason:LGPL text in /usr/share/common-licenses/ hmmer_2.3.2-1_i386.reason:E: hmmer-doc: copyright-should-refer-to-common-license-file-for-gpl httping_0.0.91-1_i386.reason:Unfortunately this software is licensed under the GPL but links with httping_0.0.91-1_i386.reason:OpenSSL. This doesn't work due to license conflicts (see ircd-ptlink_6.16.1-2_i386.reason:Unfortunately this software is licensed under the GPL but links with ircd-ptlink_6.16.1-2_i386.reason:OpenSSL. This doesn't work due to license conflicts (see jasper_1.700.5-1_i386.reason:The license on this package appears to be non-free and according to kernel-patch-2.6-cobalt_2_i386.reason:You need to include a pointer to the GPL in /usr/share/common-licenses in your latex-xcolor_1.07-1_i386.reason: Sorry to be pedantic but this isn't good enough. Unless the license is one lfm_0.91-1_i386.reason:You have a spare license file in /usr/share/doc and also you seem to have libapache-mod-iptos_1.0-1_i386.reason:Sorry to be pedantic but unless the license is one of those in base-files libapache2-mod-layout_4.0.1a-1_i386.reason:if the license is indeed BSD could you provide a file pointer to the full text libintl-perl_1.05-1_i386.reason:| A copy of the GPL-2 can be found at /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2 on libio-interface-perl_0.97-1.reason:reference in the copyright file are the common licenses in base-files. libio-interface-perl_0.97-1.reason:[Also saying it's "under the same license as Perl itself" is libio-interface-perl_0.97-1.reason:unhelpful; which version of Perl? What if Perl changes licenses? etc. libnet-cidr-lite-perl_0.15-1_i386.reason:| can be found in `/usr/share/common-licenses/GPL' and the Artistic libnet-cidr-lite-perl_0.15-1_i386.reason:| Licence in `/usr/share/common-licenses/Artistic'. libnet-cidr-lite-perl_0.15-1_i386.reason:Can we have the license for libnet-cidr-lite-perl please? links_0.99-1.1_i386.reason:The copyright file should include a pointer to the common-licenses directory medussa_0.7-1_i386.reason:Unfortunately this software is licensed under the GPL but links with medussa_0.7-1_i386.reason:OpenSSL. This doesn't work due to license conflicts (see middleman_2.0.1+cvs20040427-1_i386.reason:Unfortunately this software is licensed under the GPL but appears to link with middleman_2.0.1+cvs20040427-1_i386.reason:OpenSSL. This doesn't work due to license conflicts (see mixxx_1.2.1-1_i386.reason:| /usr/share/common-licenses/Artistic mod-ruby_1.2.0-1_i386.reason:b) the debian/copyright file claims the license is LGPL but the mozilla-locale-el_1.5-1_i386.reason:The MPL isn't a common-licenses license. Please include its full text in your mozilla-locale-no-nb_1.4-1_i386.reason:common licenses in base-files, you need to include the full license in mp3roaster_0.2.0-1_i386.reason:licence text or if one of the licenses in base-files, a file pointer mp3roaster_0.2.0-1_i386.reason:Public License can be found in `/usr/share/common-licenses/GPL'" nagat_1.0a2-1_i386.reason:You have misspelt the common-licenses directory name :-) nagat_1.0a2-1_i386.reason:E: nagat: copyright-should-refer-to-common-license-file-for-gpl neon0.23_0.23.9-4_i386.reason:of /usr/share/common-licenses. neverball_1.1.0-1_i386.reason:in /usr/share/common-licenses/. pgf_0.50-1_i386.reason:Sorry to be pedantic but this isn't good enough. Unless the license is one pgmanage_1.0.1-1_i386.reason:I believe this clauses makes the license too non-free, even for pgmanage_1.0.1-1_i386.reason:assent of the terms of this license. If you disagree with this php4-sqlite_1.0.2-1_i386.reason: | This source file is subject to version 3.0 of the PHP license, | php4-sqlite_1.0.2-1_i386.reason: | http://www.php.net/license/3_0.txt. postgresql-plruby_0.3.9-1_i386.reason:Unless the license is in base-files you cannot use a file pointer. prelude-lml_0.8.5-1_i386.reason:Unfortunately this software is licensed under the GPL but links with prelude-lml_0.8.5-1_i386.reason:OpenSSL. This doesn't work due to license conflicts (see prelude-manager_0.8.7-1_i386.reason:Unfortunately this software is licensed under the GPL but links with prelude-manager_0.8.7-1_i386.reason:OpenSSL. This doesn't work due to license conflicts (see pxes_0.7-1-3_i386.reason:b) there's two copyright license problems: pxes_0.7-1-3_i386.reason: (1) debian/copyright needs to contain the full license for _all_ pxes_0.7-1-3_i386.reason: we'll be violating the license of this software. We can't use silc-toolkit_0.9.12-1_i386.reason: /usr/share/common-licenses) in the copyright file. slat_1.1.5-1_i386.reason:E: slat: copyright-should-refer-to-common-license-file-for-gpl slat_1.2.1-1_i386.reason:Please provide a file pointer to the GPLv2 license file in base-files for the slat_1.2.1-1_i386.reason:full text of the license. spplus_1.0-1_i386.reason:Please provide the complete license text in the copyright file (unless it is one of those in base-files, which in this it is not, in which a file pointer will do) sql-ledger_2.0.6-1_i386.reason:E: sql-ledger: copyright-should-refer-to-common-license-file-for-gpl supybot_0.77.0-1_i386.reason:You can't use file pointers unless the license text is one of those in base-files. swiss-ephemeris_1.66-1_i386.reason:I'm a little concerned about the license on this software, in swiss-ephemeris_1.66-1_i386.reason:Could you please run the license past debian-legal@l.d.o and get a tcldom_2.6-1_powerpc.reason:please either a) get upstream to clarify the license to explicitly tcltls_1.4-1_i386.reason:common licenses in base-files, you need to include the full license in tdom_0.7.8-2_powerpc.reason:| license please feel free to contact the author (loewerj@hotmail.com). tdom_0.7.8-2_powerpc.reason:| For Expat XML parser package license look into the directory expat. tdom_0.7.8-2_powerpc.reason:Sorry, but unless the license is one of the comon licenses in tdom_0.7.8-2_powerpc.reason:file. [This applies to both the MPL and the whatever license the teepeedee_0.3.0-2_i386.reason:Unfortunately this software is licensed under the GPL but appears to link with teepeedee_0.3.0-2_i386.reason:OpenSSL. This doesn't work due to license conflicts (see tei-p4-doc_20030715-1_i386.reason:Same license problem as the non -doc package. tomcat-connectors_4.1.28-1_i386.reason:2 things: first a nitpick, the apache license is definitley not "BSD vgui_2.07-1_i386.reason:This license text differs from what's on the website; presumably the vgui_2.07-1_i386.reason:should include the email along with the unmodified license so it's xmms-blursk_1.3-1_alpha.reason:To be pedantic you should include a pointer to the /usr/share/common-licenses zope-groupuserfolder_1.32-1_i386.reason:Sorry to be pedantic, but the only external files you're allowed toreference in a copyright file are the common licenses in base-files;anything else must be included in full in the copyright file itself. zope-groupuserfolder_1.32-2_i386.reason:W: zope-groupuserfolder: extra-license-file usr/share/zope/Products/GRUF/LICENSE.txt zope-groupuserfolder_1.32-2_i386.reason:W: zope-groupuserfolder: extra-license-file usr/lib/zope/lib/python/Products/GRUF/LICENSE.GPL zope-replacesupport_1.0.1-1_i386.reason:license file in the copyright file unless it's one of the common zope-replacesupport_1.0.1-1_i386.reason:licenses in base-files. zope-testcase_0.8.6-1_i386.reason:reference in a copyright file are the common licenses in base-files; zope-zstylesheet_4.2.5-2_i386.reason:Please find the license this package is under and upload again. zope2.7_2.7.0-1_i386.reason:Zope is licensed under the term and condition described in the Zope zope2.7_2.7.0-1_i386.reason:You may only use file pointers to licenses in base-files. Please include the zope2.7_2.7.0-1_i386.reason:full ZPL license in the copyright file. joeyh@newraff:/org/ftp.debian.org/queue/reject>grep broken *.reason amule_1.0.7-1_i386.reason:Again, your build-depends are broken: gtodo_0.13.4-1_i386.reason:Your build-depends seem broken? Please fix and reupload. ircd-ptlink_6.16.1-2_i386.reason:Also your build-depends are broken. You shouldn't depend on ircopm-ptlink_1.1.1-5_i386.reason:These are broken; libc0.3-dev can only be satisfied on hurd-i386. Why ircservices-ptlink_2.23.6-2_i386.reason:More broken build-depends... libc6-dev, libc0.3-dev as previously nagat_1.0a2-1_i386.reason:configuration files and a broken debian/copyright file. php4-sqlite_1.0.2-1_i386.reason:Sorry, this is still broken... puredata_0.37.cvs-7_i386.reason:Rejected: puredata_0.37.cvs-7.dsc: invalid Build-Depends field produced by a broken version of dpkg-dev (1.10.11) qprof_0.5-1_ia64+i386.reason:very broken since you have compiled code there. turck-mmcache_2.4.5-1_i386.reason:This is broken... xspringies_1.12-1_i386.reason:This is broken. You only need to build-depend on things which aren't joeyh@newraff:/org/ftp.debian.org/queue/reject>grep lintian *.reason aolserver4-nssha1_0.1-1_i386.reason:Please fix these lintian/linda errors? aolserver4_4.0+cvs20040121-1_i386.reason:The aolserver4 package appears to have more lintian issues than lines in its drip_0.8.3.2+0.9.0-rc1-1_i386.reason:Two other minor things: please fix the RPATH problem (lintian/linda) hmmer_2.3.2-1_i386.reason:First of all there are several trivial lintian/linda errors in your hmmer_2.3.2-1_i386.reason:---- lintian check for hmmer-doc_2.3.2-1_all.deb ---- hmmer_2.3.2-2_i386.reason:clean up the obviously correctable lintian and linda errors. hostap-modules-i386_0.1.1-3_i386.reason:packages by lintian/linda and fix the issues before uploading again. kaffe_1.1.4-4_i386.reason:a) First of all there are several trivial lintian/linda errors, please kaffe_1.1.4-4_i386.reason:| ---- lintian check for kaffe-jthreads_1.1.4-4_i386.deb ---- kaffe_1.1.4-4_i386.reason:| ---- lintian check for kaffe-common_1.1.4-4_all.deb ---- kaffe_1.1.4-4_i386.reason:| ---- lintian check for kjc_1.1.4-4_all.deb ---- kaffe_1.1.4-4_i386.reason:| ---- lintian check for kaffe-doc_1.1.4-4_all.deb ---- kaffe_1.1.4-4_i386.reason:| ---- lintian check for kaffe-pthreads_1.1.4-4_i386.deb ---- kernel-patch-2.4.24-powerpc_2.4.24-2_powerpc.reason:Sorry for the delay in processing your package. Please use lintian on kernel-patch-2.4.24-powerpc_2.4.24-2_powerpc.reason:---- lintian check for kernel-build-2.4.24-powerpc-smp_2.4.24-2_powerpc.deb ---- kernel-patch-2.4.24-powerpc_2.4.24-2_powerpc.reason:---- lintian check for kernel-image-2.4.24-powerpc-smp-chrp_2.4.24-2_powerpc.deb ---- lapack3_3.0.20000531a-1_i386.reason:Also could you fix what appear to be a couple of trivial lintian/linda lapack3_3.0.20000531a-1_i386.reason:---- lintian check for lapack3-test_3.0.20000531a-1_i386.deb ---- libapache-gallery-perl_0.7r237-1_i386.reason:a) please clean up these trivial lintian/linda errors libapache-gallery-perl_0.7r237-1_i386.reason:---- lintian check for libapache-gallery-perl_0.7r237-1_all.deb ---- libgtkada2_2.2.0-5_i386.reason:Also, lintian mumbles about sonames and packages named lib* -- I'm not mixxx_1.2.1-1_i386.reason:a) please fix the trivial lintian/linda errors below (not the manpage one, tho) mixxx_1.2.1-1_i386.reason:| ---- lintian check for mixxx_1.2.1-1_i386.deb ---- nagat_1.0a2-1_i386.reason:The nagat package has many trivial lintian issues. It also has duplicated nagat_1.0a2-1_i386.reason:---- lintian check for nagat_1.0a2-1_all.deb ---- netclasses_0.0.20032612-4_i386.reason:---- lintian check for netclasses_0.0.20032612-4_i386.deb ---- pvpgn_1.5.99+1.6.0pre3-1_i386.reason:Please use lintian and linda. That /var/* abuse can not possibly be python-docutils_0.3+cvs20040209-1.reason:---- lintian check for python-docutils-doc_0.3+cvs20040209-1_all.deb ---- qprof_0.5-1_i386+ia64.reason:qprof has piles of lintian errors I'm not happy about: qprof_0.5-1_i386+ia64.reason:---- lintian check for qprof_0.5-1_i386.deb ---- slashem_0.0.7E6F1-1_i386.reason:The packages aren't lintian clean and have some slightly suspect permissions sql-ledger_2.0.6-1_i386.reason:Considering the changelog entry claiming to have made the package lintian sql-ledger_2.0.6-1_i386.reason:---- lintian check for sql-ledger_2.0.6-1_all.deb ---- umfpack_4.1-1_i386.reason:Also, please invest in a copy of lintian and linda and use them before umfpack_4.1-1_i386.reason:| ---- lintian check for libumfpack4_4.1-1_i386.deb ---- wesnoth_0.4.7-1_i386.reason:Also there's a couple of minor/trivial lintian errors you could clean wesnoth_0.4.7-1_i386.reason:---- lintian check for wesnoth_0.4.7-1_i386.deb ---- zope-groupuserfolder_1.32-2_i386.reason:a) Please fix some of the trivial lintian errors below. joeyh@newraff:/org/ftp.debian.org/queue/reject>du 6.9G . > > and is being obviously further developed. > Evidence please? joey@dragon:~/tmp/dak>CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous@cvs.debian.org:/cvs/dak cvs co CVSROOT >/dev/null joey@dragon:~/tmp/dak>cd CVSROOT joey@dragon:~/tmp/dak/CVSROOT>cvs history -x FAMR -a | grep 2004 |wc -l 172 joey@dragon:~/tmp/dak/CVSROOT>cvs history -x FAMR -a | grep '2004-0[67]' M 2004-07-12 15:44 +0000 dsilvers 1.282 ChangeLog dak == <remote> M 2004-07-12 15:44 +0000 dsilvers 1.3 billie dak == <remote> M 2004-07-12 15:44 +0000 dsilvers 1.26 README.names dak/docs == <remote> M 2004-06-08 23:31 +0000 troup 1.50 jennifer dak == <remote> M 2004-06-08 23:31 +0000 troup 1.76 katie.conf dak == <remote> M 2004-06-08 23:31 +0000 troup 1.74 katie.conf-non-US dak == <remote> M 2004-06-08 23:31 +0000 troup 1.278 ChangeLog dak == <remote> M 2004-06-08 23:31 +0000 troup 1.128 TODO dak == <remote> M 2004-06-08 23:31 +0000 troup 1.25 README.names dak/docs == <remote> M 2004-06-09 23:02 +0000 troup 1.453 Packages-arch-specific srcdep == <remote> M 2004-06-17 14:57 +0000 troup 1.28 tea dak == <remote> M 2004-06-17 14:59 +0000 troup 1.10 README.config dak/docs == <remote> M 2004-06-17 14:59 +0000 troup 1.8 README.first dak/docs == <remote> M 2004-06-17 14:59 +0000 troup 1.20 neve dak == <remote> M 2004-06-17 15:00 +0000 troup 1.16 db_access.py dak == <remote> M 2004-06-17 15:01 +0000 troup 1.51 jennifer dak == <remote> M 2004-06-17 15:02 +0000 troup 1.279 ChangeLog dak == <remote> M 2004-06-17 15:02 +0000 troup 1.18 charisma dak == <remote> M 2004-06-17 15:02 +0000 troup 1.28 jenna dak == <remote> M 2004-06-17 15:02 +0000 troup 1.48 katie.py dak == <remote> M 2004-06-23 23:11 +0000 troup 1.280 ChangeLog dak == <remote> M 2004-06-23 23:11 +0000 troup 1.68 utils.py dak == <remote> M 2004-06-23 23:11 +0000 troup 1.2 test.py dak/test/006 == <remote> M 2004-06-23 23:30 +0000 troup 1.462 Packages-arch-specific srcdep == <remote> M 2004-06-24 00:41 +0000 troup 1.281 ChangeLog dak == <remote> M 2004-06-24 00:41 +0000 troup 1.13 jeri dak == <remote> M 2004-06-24 00:41 +0000 troup 1.41 melanie dak == <remote> M 2004-06-24 00:41 +0000 troup 1.69 utils.py dak == <remote> M 2004-06-24 00:41 +0000 troup 1.4 melanie.1.sgml dak/docs == <remote> -- see shy jo
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