On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 08:17:06AM +0000, Andrew Suffield wrote: > I challenge the assertion that this affects a large portion of users. > > In the past few months, I've installed woody on roughly 30-40 > different types of box, all aged 0-3 years, and only one was > unsupported by woody (and that was freaky new apple kit). > > I think you have unusual hardware. Neither are that unusual. I suppose it may have been a little highend for some when I first bought them, but now they are relatively cheap, an AthlonXP Via KT400 based motherboard now is as cheap as $42 USD and the P4 i865/i875 chipset series is as cheap as $62 USD. Perhaps all of your 0-3 year old systems had older chipset logic in them, or perhaps truly new systems just aren't common in your country. Via KT400 was released 16 Aug 2002 and the i865/i875 line was released 14 Apr 2003. Note that nearly all P4 systems with the 800MHz FSB use the i865/i875 chipsets. I refuse to use nvidia products, but I somehow doubt that boards based on their nforce2 chipset work properly either. Regardless updating boot-floppies when new kernels come out would be a good idea so that newbies with recent machines can still use Debian. Chris Release Dates: Intel ----- i845 10 Sept 2001 i875 14 Apr 2003 i865 21 May 2003 Nvidia ------ nforce 4 June 2001 nforce2 16 July 2002 Via --- KT266 20 Sept 2000 KT266A 3 Sept 2001 KT333 20 Feb 2002 KT400 16 Aug 2002 KT400A 10 Mar 2003 KT600 18 Jun 2003
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