On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 12:56:24PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 20:23:48 +0100 > Andrew Suffield <asuffield@debian.org> wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 12:06:39PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > > > On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 17:23:17 +0100 > > > Andrew Suffield <asuffield@debian.org> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 12:27:00AM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote: > > > > > Because you think it's an awesome group with laudable goals and you > > > > > want to contribute? > > > > TBH, that's a lousy reason to join Debian. Send a cheque or something. > > > *cough* Oh, right, we should hate Debian, loathe it before joining, > > > right? > > Do you have difficulty with English? That is not what I said. > > No. But you said that the opposite is the wrong reason. If we like > Debian it is a bad reason to want to contribute. So the it is only logical to > presume that if you feel liking is a bad reason disliking might very well be a > good one. That's *logical*? Rather, it's *absurd*. > Of course that isn't true, I was just showing the farce of your > statement. Obviously you want people who like the project to contribute. You have failed miserably at understanding my statement. I do not want people to contribute because they "like the project". This is not "obvious"; moreover, it's wrong. None of which implies that they have to "hate" the project before joining. > > My whole point is that Debian does not need people who need encouraging. We > > need people who will do the work *without* encouragement, mostly > > because they ain't going to get any. > > But it doesn't have to actively shun and discourage people who want to > contribute, either, does it? Correct, it does not have to. Neither does it have to avoid doing so. > > If you are attempting to suggest that people should be given accounts > > as a form of encouragement, then there are two problems with this > > idea: > > No, I am pointing out that it appears that Debian, on the whole, needs an > attitude readjustment. On the one hand you have d.o people blasting people > for not contributing and on the other you have d.o people discouraging people > from contributing. You cannot have it both ways. Uhm, yes we can. Did you read what I wrote? We want people who will be unaffected by such things. Note that the fact that we self-select for such people is the cause, rather than the result, of this. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- |
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