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Re: About NM and Next Release



On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 20:23:48 +0100
Andrew Suffield <asuffield@debian.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 12:06:39PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 17:23:17 +0100
> > Andrew Suffield <asuffield@debian.org> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 12:27:00AM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote:
> > > > Because you think it's an awesome group with laudable goals and you
> > > > want to contribute?
> > > TBH, that's a lousy reason to join Debian. Send a cheque or something.
> >     *cough*  Oh, right, we should hate Debian, loathe it before joining,
> > right?
> Do you have difficulty with English? That is not what I said.

    No.  But you said that the opposite is the wrong reason.  If we like
Debian it is a bad reason to want to contribute.  So the it is only logical to
presume that if you feel liking is a bad reason disliking might very well be a
good one.  Of course that isn't true, I was just showing the farce of your
statement.  Obviously you want people who like the project to contribute.

> And that doesn't make any sense; what are you talking about? 

    The fact that Debian seems to be hostile?

> My whole  point is that Debian does not need people who need encouraging. We
> need people who will do the work *without* encouragement, mostly
> because they ain't going to get any.

    But it doesn't have to actively shun and discourage people who want to
contribute, either, does it?
 
> If you are attempting to suggest that people should be given accounts
> as a form of encouragement, then there are two problems with this
> idea:

    No, I am pointing out that it appears that Debian, on the whole, needs an
attitude readjustment.  On the one hand you have d.o people blasting people
for not contributing and on the other you have d.o people discouraging people
from contributing.  You cannot have it both ways.  Either you accept the
contributions that come or you stop blasting people because they don't
contribute.

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