Re: Future releases of Debian
On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 02:42:35PM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 12:56:45PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> > Moin Adrian!
> > Adrian Bunk schrieb am Saturday, den 19. July 2003:
> >
> > > Where's the big use if you ship 7 CDs but some random packages are not
> > > present?
> > >
> > > You might not care, but perhaps thousands of users care.
> > >
> > > The "What, Debian 3.1 ships 10 CDs but this common program I need for my
> > > work that was in Debian 3.0 is not included?" would do much harm to the
> > > reputation of Debian.
> >
> > Bitching about this problem won't help. Instead, I suggest automated
> > MIA probes (warning email) with maintainers who have RC bugs open
> > without any comment or without a comment but not particular action in 14
> > days, for example (hello tbm ;-). Looking at the RC bug list, I get the
> > impression that many maintainers are just not interessted in maintaining
> > their packages. The mail should contain the suggestion to orphan the
> > package or set the help flag or file an RFA bug report on it. When the
> > maintainer does not respond in 4 weeks, orphan the package. No bug gets
> > fixed by just waiting (in normal situations) and when the package gets
> > removed from the stable distribution, well, blame the maintainer instead
> > of posting rhetorical questions on -devel.
>
> I strongly agree with you there. I'm very pleased to see that something is
> currently happening, with a whole wave of orphaning packages from MIA
> maintainers.
FWIW, I disagree. Orphaning a package doesn't magically fix it.
Instead, maintainers should expect their packages to be NMU'd when they
have open RC bugs for a considerable period of time. And oh - there's no
such thing as Karma in debian, so getting NMU'd doesn't hurt you, ok?
my 0.02 NKR,
Michael
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