Re: Bug#152621: x-window-manager should provide an x-session-manager alternatives entry
#include <hallo.h>
* Branden Robinson [Sat, Oct 05 2002, 12:14:17PM]:
> On Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 03:17:15PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> > reopen 152621
> > thanks
>
> I won't mention the further irony involved with your headers.
Hrm, is someone playing with murphy? My first response to this message
disappeared, so retrying.
> > That's not the point. You just told everyone to kick alternatives
> > mechanism away and hack the config files manually. I proposed a simple
> > solution that would cost you ONE LINE in postinst and ONE LINE in
> > postrm.
>
> You don't even know what an X session manager *is*.
I do not need to know what an X session manager _is_. I want to see a
way to get rid of it in the X startup configuration _easily_. And not by
deinstalling it completely.
> > You are ignoring wishes of users.
>
> So are the sysadmins who use update-alternatives to make vim the default
> editor when some of their users prefer GNU Emacs.
Huch?! Vim does not have the highest priority, so it is does not enable
itself just when beeing installed. That is what we are talking about,
your Xsession automaticaly takes some x-session-manager and overrides
x-window-manager setting without telling the user about it. THIS is
confusing.
> > I have just seen a user complaining about EXACTLY THIS fact on the
> > debian-users-german mailing list.
>
> I suggest you tell him/her to:
>
> 1) talk to his/her sysadmin about changing the default; or
> 2) write a $HOME/.Xsession that does what he/she wants
No. I won't make anything like that. I tell YOU how to make all such
problems disappear. Changing the default means changing the X'
conffiles. Instead, I suggest to make a "None" alternatives entry for
x-session-manager so the pure WM is started.
> > So? Who is responsible then?
>
> The maintainer of the package that should be registering the
> alternative.
Okay. Then I should make a package, call it "make-things-better" and
override all such braindead "solutions".
> > YOUR package are the first installed when X make its way on the system
> > and YOU are in the best position to fix the mess.
>
> There is no mess, just your willful refusal to understand what a session
> manager is -- and what it is not.
That is your refusal to undestand that some thing works different in
practice than you expect in the theory.
Gruss/Regards,
Eduard.
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