On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 11:01:36AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> In chiark.mail.debian.devel, you wrote:
> >On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 09:50:00AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> >> Didn't we have this discussion recently? I'm sure there are cases where
> >> a deleted file is treated differently from an empty file by the
> >> application.=20
> >
> >So list them.
>
> The thread "When bind9 reinstalls, no db.root"
> (http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200208/msg01375.html
> onwards) suggested that snmpd would be an issue.
Yes, mentioning that was my fault.
It's an issue, because it
a) works,
b) (because the init.d skripts _do_ check for file existence before
starting the daemons, and
c) it is easy to do on ump-teen machines one has to set up over the
time
As a matter of fact, after reading the manpages, this appears to be rather
broken behaviour, because it
a) is not required [to have these files] for the agent to operate and
respond to requests. (from both snmpd.conf(5) and snmptrapd.conf(5))
b) /etc/defaults/snmpd exists and contains SNMPDRUN and TRAPDRUN
variables
c) conflicts with the more intuitive notion of
--reinstall <==> --purge && --install
> We'd also need to educate users that rm /etc/foo and cp /dev/null
> /etc/foo will behave differently. At the moment I delete stuff in cron.d
> that I don't want. Some of these seem to be marked as conffiles, but I
> think expecting them not to come back on package reinstall is fairly
> legitimate.
aj already said it: people deleteing random files have to prepare (in
either case) to be shot into the foot (myself included).
What is needed thus?
A fscking simple method to disable this (and other) stuff.
At install time.
Independent of file existance.
That works.
Yes, sometimes I just go over the top of my head ...
Regards, David
--
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-- Dieter Nuhr (www.nuhr.de) in der Wiener Remise, 2002-08-02
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